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spookini
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 68
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: Boston area newb -- |
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Newb in Boston area, wanting to get into windsurfing but don't have the budget right now for all-new equipment. Looking to pickup a used/demo beginner board -- they're not easy to locate!
In terms of rig/sails, does anybody have any equipment they are looking to downsize? Thanks in advance. Hope I get some replies |
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WaterKook
Joined: 10 Apr 2000 Posts: 1713 Location: The Dude abides!!!!!
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MikeLaRonde
Joined: 11 Jun 2001 Posts: 768
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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I have a very large board (1998 AHD Race Pro 310, 169l) which I will give away to anyone who is willing to fix it and use it. basically, the nose has completely broke off, but this thing is so long I don't think it is even needed. one way or another, you'll need to seal it off with some epoxy or whatever. it also has a small ding on the bottom which needs repair.
This board absolutely hauls ass. about 70cm wide. ideal sail is about 7.5, but it is wide and stable, and I learned how to plane and waterstart on it with much smaller sails. board is in Dedham, MA. fin not included for free, has tuttle box
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CoderX
Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:50 am Post subject: |
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spookini wrote: | In terms of rig/sails, does anybody have any equipment they are looking to downsize? |
Freebee: I have old 6.4 sail (199? sailworld volcano?). I haven't used it in ages. PM me if you need it.
Andrey |
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spookini
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 68
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Any tips on what type of rig I should try to put together? Mast type? This is alll new to me. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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greyghost
Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Posts: 151
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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i think it depends on just how interested you are (ie how long you might keep the gear you buy) and what is your budget. There's lots of used gear around, usually it's a matter of being patient and checking Craigslist frequently.
In general, if you can afford and get a 'newer' (ie 5-6 year old board), wider style board, you'll progress faster. The bigger the better. Boards from the 90's and early 2000 tended to be longer and narrower. It's not that you can't learn on them, it's just harder and slower.
If you're starting out, getting a smaller sail would be better depending on your weight. Averge sized male - 160# or so, maybe a 5.0.
Larger = more power and more likely to plane, but also heavier and harder to learn on. Looking for an appropriate lenght carbon mast would be good. I think if you're just starting out and learning sail handling and not blasting along, doesn't matter if it's newer or an older sail, just not ancient. If you're looking at a sail that you might keep in the long run, you'd want a newer sail (ie <6 years old).
BTW I have an old 5.0 Neilpryde RAF sail that you're welcome to have. |
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spookini
Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Posts: 68
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Next beginner's question: what % carbon mast is best bang-for-buck?
Assuming I will be uphauling 100% of the time (no beach or water starts yet), does hi-carbon (75%+) make a big difference? Is it worth spending the $$? |
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npiankov
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 82
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:24 am Post subject: |
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From my experience, most people don't stay in the beginner stage for very long. If you go sailing once a week, have reasonable coordination and are eager to learn, you'll be waterstarting within 1 season. The biggest question is whether you expect to sail a fair amount or if this is just once-in-a-while kind of hobby for you, where you'd go on rare occasions and may not sail for a couple of months during the season just because it doesn't work out with family etc. If you expect to sail just occasionally, I would go for 30% mast. On the other hand, if this is something you enjoy to the point where you expect to be on the water with regularity and are not cash-strapped, a higher-quality mast will make sense.
In my experience, I found there to be a big difference between 30% carbon and 55% carbon - can be really felt. The difference between 55% and 70-75% doesn't feel as big and you need to start thinking about durability at that %% (the only mast I ever broke was a nice 75% Fiberspar - got worn out in the boom area and snapped). Frankly, instead of getting 75%+ regular mast, I would advise getting a skinny (90-100% carbon) for about the same amount of money. Those are really nice and comfortable, easier to waterstart with, easier to do sail maneuvers with. Would last you forever too. |
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shreddbob
Joined: 31 Mar 1987 Posts: 361 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like you have become interested in our sport. That's great. Welcome! But can you tell us if you've tried it at all yet? If not then you may want to "get your feet wet" a few times before thinking about purchasing anything. Lots of people give up before getting anywhere in this sport. A lesson is pretty much mandatory at first. Lessons and rentals available at several places:
http://www.best-of-cape-cod.com/windsurfing-cape-cod.html
After a lesson or two then you can rent beginner gear and head down to West Dennis Beach on the Cape at low tide in a light southerly wind and progress rapidly. This is a great spot because for several hours surrounding low tide you can stand pretty far from shore (waist to neck high). And it's free now too.
This weekend has perfect timing of low tide (mid afternoon) at the south side of the Cape (West Dennis). And no swells from hurricanes make it into this part of Nanutcket Sound so ignore all the sensationalized news reporting sure to come about Igor making it too dangerous to go to any beach anywhere... And there's a good chance of some light south or southwest sea breezes there at least one of the afternoons this weekend, maybe both days.
http://www.boatma.com/tides/Sep/Dennisport-Nantucket-Sound.html
Do you have a wetsuit? A roof rack for your car? Things to think about. You may get away without a wetsuit this weekend (though better to have one) but certainly not much longer. The rental shops may provide one. Being chilled out there and trying to learn is not a good mix. And of course there's that mandatory 45 minute swim back to shore dragging your gear behind you that all beginners end up experiencing--much safer in a wetsuit. And don't go in winds that will be blowing you offshore!!! (unless you have a good friend with a chase boat).
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swmckay
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 131
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:46 am Post subject: |
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npiankov wrote: | Frankly, instead of getting 75%+ regular mast, I would advise getting a skinny (90-100% carbon) for about the same amount of money. Those are really nice and comfortable, easier to waterstart with, easier to do sail maneuvers with. Would last you forever too. |
What he said. Go for a high-carbon (> 90%) skinny. It'll be a bit more expensive up front, but in the Boston area, it should last about 50 years. And the light weight makes an enormous difference.
I own and like both Hot Sails Maui "Hot Rod Big Wave RDM" and the Ezzy masts; and I've rented the Neil Pryde X-Combats, and like them a lot, too. The Hot Rods and the Ezzys are pretty reasonably priced, too. And Neil Pryde Maui sometimes sells unlabelled X-Combats for ridiculously low prices. I bet that any modern > 90% carbon RDM is good, though. |
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