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surfdog55



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:04 am    Post subject: Replacement of sensor at Marker12 Reply with quote

So when the team is flown in to fix the Anita Rock sensor how about sending them to Marker10 and retrieve the sensor and move it to Marker12.
Just saying
JT
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windfind



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Surfdog55,

So far we are getting a lot more requests, especially from the kite community, that the sensor stay at Marker 10 since it picks up wind that Marker 12 does not.

Even if you are not on the water in that area the Marker 10 sensor gives you some insight into the wind in the area that the Marker 14 sensor misses. (incidentally if you have never windsurfed up to that area you should especially during a flood. Often it actually has some small swell and better wind.)

Looking at the archives from years past it sure looks like Marker 12 and 14 often pick up similar wind and are somewhat redundant.

Any thoughts from others about this issue?

Mike Godsey
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Arrgh



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"incidentally if you have never windsurfed up to that area you should especially during a flood."

Well, Mike, I could think about that, but your map doesn't tell me if it's blowing 7 or 17 or something in between at County Park. I can't sail up there with no wind. (Or I guess I could just buy a Sea-Doo and jet on up there like a couple of kiters I know.)


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gpadmos



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Replacement of sensor at Marker12 Reply with quote

surfdog55 wrote:
So when the team is flown in to fix the Anita Rock sensor how about sending them to Marker10 and retrieve the sensor and move it to Marker12.
Just saying
JT

I thought the same thing. I miss Marker 12. It would be interesting to have a season's worth of data from all three to see under what conditions M12 mirrors M10 or M14.

With the advent of smart phones, these sensors not only tell us if it's worth making the drive, they tell us what to rig at the launch, especially those that are smack-dab in the middle of the sailing zone, like M12.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Yeah, but Marker 12 is the Missing Link Reply with quote

I frequently sail between Little Baja & Rio Viento. Readings from 10 & 14 can be dramatically different. In fact, the 10 readings can be misleading. Having the reading from 12 would be a huge help in deciding where conditions are best. The 12 reading used to be what I relied upon when making my sailing decision. I now frequently look at Weather Underground to make an informed decision. Seriously, windsurfers need the Marker 12 sensor back in the game.
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Rube



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for M12. Seriously. Especially when the wind is not parallel to the river.

I've been a COTW member since 1999. I guess priorities change, M10 is really only of use for the commercial jetski / boat assisted downwinder operations for the kite guys - and doesn't help me. M12 is especially helpful when the wind is not parallel to the river direction and so tends to get funky around the county park.
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spennie



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike: You say Markers 12 & 14 often pick up similar wind and are somewhat redundant, then add a picture of them 10 mph apart!

Couldn't you add one at M12 and keep all 3?

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windfind



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spennie wrote:
Mike: You say Markers 12 & 14 often pick up similar wind and are somewhat redundant, then add a picture of them 10 mph apart! Couldn't you add one at M12 and keep all 3?


Hi Spennie,

I think you are confusing Markers. As you can see below we currently have sensors at M10 and M14. The sensor at M!0 used to be at M12 before a wayward ship took out the marker and our sensor. The issue is that some customers really like the new site while others want the sensor returned to M12.

spennie wrote:
Couldn't you add one at M12 and keep all 3?


Putting a 3rd sensor at Sherman is on our list right after the request that we terraform the Southern California coast so all that NW wind reaches the beaches during the summer.

Mike Godsey



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted: 10 May 2011 18:18 Post subject: Sherman Island M12 sensor
Hi Gang,
We need your input...We would like your input on which Nav. Aid. to put the temporary sensor on. I am leaning towards M10. What do you think?

Posted: 05 Apr 2012 13:06 Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi Gang,
The sensor crew is primed to reinstall Sherman Island Marker 12 sensor now that the Coast Guard had fixed the Nav. Aid. However still we have to go through the entire process of applying for permits and justifying the installation to the Federal Government. This takes time but we are on it.

Posted: 04 Jun 2012 23:45 Post subject: Sensor update
...We are still waiting for a permit to reinstall the sensor on the replacement day marker at Sherman...
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beallmd



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How often do you check both 14(reads low) and 10(reads high), then get a quizzical look on your face? 12 has always been the best read, period. Just my 2 cents(worth less now than the old days).
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