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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | ]
Both the tops and the bottoms of feet -- or one or the other or neither -- have arches to some degree. I'm a neither, and I can't be that unique even though I have to shorten the shoelaces by up to a foot on most shoes. We "neithers" have little or even no hump or "stop" on the tops of our feet, so our front footstrap adjustment is critical. Mere millimeters in length make the difference between toes vs the whole foot entering the strap. We may have to adjust front strap length several times ion one session, on the water, to get it right ... then occasionally have to start over if our feet shrink or swell a bit.
BTW ... if your orthotics are for overpronation, recent large studies show that orthotics and buying shoes according to foot "type" -- flat, normal, highly arched, overpronated, etc. -- actually increase injury rates. Medical advice now is to just buy cheap neutral shoes. Unless you're very happy and injury-free with your orthotics and with their cost, you might want to see this article at
http://www.runblogger.com/2012/09/why-term-overpronation-should-be.html
and pursue that research further. (My wet footrpint is more or less a rectangle and my feet "overpronate" quite obviously, but my feet have always been trouble-free despite many doctors telling me I need orthotics or motion-control shoes. ) |
Both the tops and the bottoms of feet -- or one or the other or neither -- have arches to some degree. I'm a neither, and I can't be that unique
PLEASE post a photo of the foot that has both NEITHER top or bottom arch...PLEASE, did it come from a pancake box
thanks so much for the orthotic advise, I will file in the appropriate folder, sports medicine Doctors and chiropractors must be out of the loop, along with those who test shoes _________________ K4 fins
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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BTW Iam having a prob still with this::
What I am having a prob with is how any strap ADJUSTMENT would help in any manner with a flat foot, since all the adjustments are either length and curvature of the upper strap, neither of which IMO effect the flat foot, which is of course on the BOTTOM of the foot.
can you clarify how the adjustment positions help the foot on the BOTTOM..? _________________ K4 fins
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:31 am Post subject: |
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I’ve explained the footstrap vs arch issue at least 6-8 times already, 3 or 4 just in my last post.
And if I described even a quarter of the instances in which a long list of general and specialist medical providers -- let alone salesmen -- have given me bad ... sometimes horrible ... advice due to ignorance of the evidence-based, peer-reviewed medical research they are morally and legally bound to follow, I’d be guilty of my first major thread hijacking even though it was for your benefit. We must do our own medical (and legal) homework or suffer the consequences, even in life and death matters. That will only get worse as we have fewer doctors treating more patients. |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I would call that answer backpedal, change the tune, decline to explain my statements, umm cause I did already, but its ok for me to make the statements I just don't want/cant back them up
thanks so much for having my interest in the orthotics _________________ K4 fins
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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I, and every other unemotional reader, would call it, "I don't know how to make it any clearer." |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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this what you do, call other people emotional, so that their thinking cant be categorized as rational.
this is what you do, make statements , cant substantiate them with anything like a fact, say things like I have already explained this, when its so obvious that you luv to have yourself write, write , write,
yet say nothing , and you expect me to value your opinions, on feet or anything _________________ K4 fins
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KevinDo
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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KevinDo wrote: | Why does every thread here seemingly go down hill lol. Anyways I talked to Juerg last night and he said we got two orders for the Kolvaski straps. Hopefully you guys find them to your liking!
-Kevin |
my WHY, is I can t ignore things said that don't make sense in regard to what I have experienced or believe in.
1 set ordered here. I wanted something special for my project board. _________________ K4 fins
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uwindsurf
Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I would be interested in reading a review. Please post after you have had a chance to try them out. |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:19 am Post subject: |
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happy to, but its winter here, may go to Texas, before spring, April then for test
will give my impression on arrival. I do have large baseline, of straps to compare them to _________________ K4 fins
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