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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:58 am Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: |
Most newby waterstarters think that "pull yourself up" means "do a pullup" or "use your biceps to pull yourself up onto the board". Nope. That pulls the sail down, reducing its vertical lift ... just the opposite of what we need in marginal wind (relative to sail size). Our objective in that scenario is to maximize the sail's lift by getting it as high as possible ... thus we want to consciously push it as high as possible without relinquishing our grip on it.
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HAH, I knew if I waited long enough Iso and I would agree on something.
Something I teach in waterstarting. There are two ways of powering a sail. Moving it up and moving it forward. So the opposite is also true, moving it back or pulling it down depowers it. (talking waterstarts here). So it is very important you have a LIGHT grip on the boom and do everything you can to get it up and forward. THIS will pull you up with no effort. I won't say anything about that feet cause that will cause another LONG argument.... |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:20 am Post subject: |
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i have to water start in some pretty hoary situations in east coast surf conditions. light wind added with following currents and gusty, shifty winds force me to be as simple as possible with my thoughts.
orient the board off the wind. use the back foot to pull the board under your butt. arms as straight as one can, keep mast foot pressure on. front leg acts as keel to max apparent wind.
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:14 am Post subject: |
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What J said, plus I roll forward up and onto the board as I sweep that forward/keel leg down and back to boost that rolling action. It's a do or die technique in that if it fails I'm now out of position, but with practice we learn to estimate pretty accurately whether it will work. If it fails, you just get that lower leg forward again and try again.
Last ditch, when you can hear the barge pilot swearing or praying, you grab the bottom of the mast in the front hand and either a harness line or the foot of the sail in the other, getting the sail higher into the wind AND giving it more leverage to lift you. |
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coachg
Joined: 10 Sep 2000 Posts: 3550
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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TooSteep,
If you shift your dates one week later you can catch the Jan 26-30 ABK clinic. That will fix your water start & clean up your jibe.
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DelCarpenter
Joined: 06 Nov 2008 Posts: 499 Location: Cedar Falls, IA
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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One of the attractions of Bonaire over Aruba is much better snorkeling. Great windsurfing (warm, shallow, flat, windy) is not as rare as great snorkeling. Bonaire has both from what I am told.
Isobars, thanks for the waterstarting & jibing details, both skills I need to work on. |
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Bonaire |
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justall wrote: | TooSteep wrote: |
One last question - does anyone have a recommended online resource or DVD/book suggestion for learning to i) sail efficiently (I'm always fighting my board/sail a least a little) ii) plane through a Jybe and iii) waterstart efficiently? |
Well for items (ii) and (iii), definitely Dasher's The ABC's of Waterstarting, and Dasher's The 12 Step Jibe. |
Both videos are as close to definitive as is available.
To echo and emphasize the other waterstart points made...you're pushing the rig forward up and away from you to waterstart. It's counterintuitive until you've had it work a few hundred times.
You're going to love Bonaire! Do you know when you're going? I'll be there mid February with the wife (who is also working on improving her waterstarts and jibes). _________________ Michael
http://www.peconicpuffin.com |
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johnl
Joined: 05 Jun 1994 Posts: 1330 Location: Hood River OR
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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DelCarpenter wrote: | One of the attractions of Bonaire over Aruba is much better snorkeling. Great windsurfing (warm, shallow, flat, windy) is not as rare as great snorkeling. Bonaire has both from what I am told.
Isobars, thanks for the waterstarting & jibing details, both skills I need to work on. |
Many years ago I went to Bonaire. Awesome place. Went beach Scuba Diving in the morning and windsurfing every afternoon. Just a short drive across the island. Just watch your stuff. There was a lot of petty thefts when I was there (granted it was over 15 years ago). Although things could have changed. |
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J64TWB
Joined: 24 Dec 2013 Posts: 1685
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you hit the National Park on the North end of the island. When I was there about the same time as John, petty car theft was real. Probably mostly for scuba duba's who would leave wallets in rental cars as they go out. They would have a watcher up high to give them the all clear to go through the rental car once the scuba divers would go under. I wouldn't worry though, it is a lovely Dutch island away from commercialism.
Try scuba there it's a very easy place to try. We swam with Tarpon at night off the hotel. Freaky experience with them darting in and out of our lights. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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DelCarpenter wrote: | Isobars, thanks for the waterstarting & jibing details, both skills I need to work on. |
So do I, and most of the rest of us. There will always be a gap between textbooks and real life, and mine began widening in my 60s. Also, I pulled off more good planing jibes in my first session back in the straps on a real WS board in September than I had all summer on a strapless windSUP. Equipment matters. |
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AndreiA
Joined: 14 Apr 2013 Posts: 73
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Bonaire!
Some reading here:
http://www.na-windsurfing.com/TravelNotes/default.html
Curacao has better connections and only 15 minutes flight by InselAir. I flew with them many times, the only problem is they sometimes cancel flights. I would recommend on the way back have good gap between the flights as WestJet doesn't fly every day if you miss it
Aruba is a bit longer hop (30min), and there are fewer flights. Don't make a mistake booking a flight connecting at Curacao (2x15min flight and looong wait).
Let me know if you have any questions. |
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