Kona Carb One vs Phanton 293 bat wings.

joethewindsufa · Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal

as adywind said :

jingebritsen · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371

if i did not have access to florida east coast waves, and was situated inland, far away from the surf, i would only need one board. the carb one. it is a fantastic board.

gvogelsang · Joined: 09 Nov 1988 Posts: 435

Sailboarder · Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 656

I wonder why you need a lighter board. You must be strong enough to bring it in and out of water? The K1 may be a better match because it will resist dents better than the Carb1.

But either with the K1 or Carb1, the nice thing is that you can learn to use foostraps on a longboard that behaves similarly to a shortboard, thanks to the duck tail.

And Joe, planing out of the straps takes away a good part of the fun. You need to sail defensively in order to avoid catapults. And since you often have to stand in front of the straps, the board doesn't release well, you go slower, the sail seems to pull more and you need to open it more.

In the straps, you can get even weight on both legs, the board goes faster , you can close the sail better and it eventually just feels effortless and balanced, or at least much easier than out of the straps.

jingebritsen · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371

carb one is pretty tough. not as toughas the kona one, but OMG the performance enhancements!!!!!

imagine a kona one with turbo chargers. that's the carb one. acceleration, and turning are the key issues. slightly better dagger too.

gustavoluzardo · Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 6

Thnx U very much guys.

Chandler & joethewindsufa, Adywind, beaglebuddy: Most of the time we just do not have enough wind around here I guess. So it seems that my personal issue is technique and experience. What I get is that I need perhaps a 8.0 sail in between my 9 & 6.5. Need to improve technique keep the weight around the mast, and use tip of toes on back feet.

The fin is Drake 52' Freeride Power.

Sailboarder: One thing is that I find it very difficult to clip in with the seat harness, and find myself with the boom below my clavicles to be able to achieve with ease. So will give it a try with a waist harness as well. I suppose u r right, with my weight, and reasonable fitness, I should be able to get this board going. I think bad technique, troubles with harness.

jingebritsen · Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371

mast raked back, harness lines set for decent amount of power, usually further back than one might think, seat harness is good. waste (spelled intentionally) is another cop out. those that adapt to seat harnesses at the recreational level of sailing end up being faster, and more capable to glide thru lulls better. been there, proved that too.

Sailboarder · Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 656

I agree with jinge, don't change you harness, figure out and fix the problem. I use a seat too, based on initial rec by local shop. You might want adjustable harness line if you use your kit both in light air and in planing conditions. I use Chinook race ones. The lines need to be longer when the sail cannot support you.