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WMP



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spennie wrote:
Why would you want to do something that you know is going to make you feel terrible, and in some cases kill you? Dopamine? Really?



This doesn't make you feel terrible.... in fact, it makes you feel so good and so powerful that you keep doing it again and again and again. You just need to understand the limits. If you go beyond the limits, you better have a backup plan. Everyone who sails in these conditions has to have a backup plan.

Fact is, there has not been a Gorge windsurfing death in the colder months (October - April) attributed to hypothermia.... never. However, there has been windsurfing deaths attributed to hypothermia in the "warmer" months (May - September). Why? Maybe because people tend to be more careful in the colder months... that's my theory. We all have a backup plan.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some picture from yesterday
12-14-2014, fun sunny day, water is still OK as there is no snow run off yet.
Five sailors out and a few spectators on the beach. Larry was on his 4.5 and
I was on my 2.7 as usual



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "fight & flight -- or else freeze" response, combined with a peaceful surrender embracing the cold river as if it were an old friend. Battle cry... "well done fellow wind studs". Yes indeed, these daredevils should start giving seminars like this cold weather adviser / activist / teacher....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BpKXE2lm4t0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XUQwFZ_xFdM
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really was not that cold, and the wind was not that bad. I actually over-heated walking my gear back. The new wetsuits and hoods are warm. I did need gloves. There were some super gusts after we got off the water.

Trudy
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgoudie1 wrote:
I've a little experience with this.

There aren't huge swells on an Easterly, when it's blowing 55 because
a. the wind and the water are moving the same direction, which
seriously reduces the potential to setup enough harmonic frequency to
generate waves (or swells ;*) )

b. wind at that magnitude tends to blow the tops off the swells.

As to the second question, there's a certain Rush associated with
survivng (maybe even dancing in) conditions from which normal people
would hide in a bunker.

Or, it might be that they just don't live on Maui?



-Craig


I think there is a little more to it than that. Such as the topography of the river. Easterlies around Stevenson produce swell out in the channel (with less wind). Granted not like the swell a west wind produces, but swell none the less. Rooster from what I've seen still stays pretty flat.

As to why, I don't understand it either. I have NO problem with hanging up my sails and boards and doing something warmer in the winter. Like kayaking. Cool I just don't understand this singular addiction to a single sport. Live a little, try other things....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we were mountain biking in Moab 2 weeks ago with the kids
(and grand kids), and the misses and I are starting to think deep freshies
in the Cottonwood Canyons (think Snowbird and Solitude).
So I guess we've been taking your advise.

;*)

Probably won't stop me from windsurfing on Oahu this Spring though.

;*)

-Craig

johnl wrote:

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As to why, I don't understand it either. I have NO problem with hanging up my sails and boards and doing something warmer in the winter. Like kayaking. Cool I just don't understand this singular addiction to a single sport. Live a little, try other things....
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WMP



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="johnl"]
cgoudie1 wrote:
I just don't understand this singular addiction to a single sport. Live a little, try other things....


Trudy is a good hiker, I've seen her great pics... so, she does diversify to land activities. I met another windsurfer up on the trail just the other day. I do understand the trend to gravitate to river routine. Winter gorge nuke sailing is simply a workout... a tradition, like a daily jog around the neighborhood. However, it's a beautiful, scenic workout at RR. The attraction to this activity at this particular place at this time of year is perfectly understandable to me, especially considering our lack of white stuff on the hills.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks WMP I am also a terrible surfer, however this forum is for windsurfing so I only post windsurfing related pictures. I only get out sailing this time of year 2-3 times a month. I am also a really, really slow runner, really a jogger.

Funny Larry and I were talking about this forum and people seem to think we are way more hardcore then we actually are. It was warm on 12-14-14 and since there is no snow yet, the water is still ok, we were standing around in it resting between our runs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand Larry having NO problem with the cold wind (with the "extra insulation" thanks to his extra large body), but I am always blown away at the site of someone like you or Laura Green (lean and mean) doing those really cold, wicked days when nobody else is out there. Reminds me of the movie "Wild".
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here ya go WMP, shot yesterday 1'C air and 5'C water. One of my sailing buddies shot this. There was 8 of us nuts out there. First part was shot a week ago post snow storm.

I wish I had that guy's resistance to cold. The first part of my session yesterday was miserable fighting cold, forearm fatigue, tweaking gear, but once set up it was fun.....and you know how much I suck compared to Gorge sailors.

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw4Zgpsezso
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