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kevinkan



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Creek is a popular kite spot... people used to windsurf there, but seems like most of the windsurfing crowd go to Waddell or Davenport... someone else here could probably explain why. Fantastic looking wave... i watched guys rip it up surfing one day
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LeeD



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotts....
I've found THREE different dead bodies washed up on the beach there, so far.
LONG walk from your car, and back.
Wind is almost similar to Waddell, so DTL sailing takes a strong sheeted in cutback, as it's really suited to going left, or backside.
Yes, once every month, it goes sideshore, but then it's too light on the inside after kicking out.
One mistake, the left on the other side of the channel, to the S, can punish you like no tomorrow.
Little reward for windsurfing DTL on side onshore winds, after that long hike down.
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xander.arch



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tajella wrote:
Super helpful info.

As an occasional ocean sailor, I am not good at reading the surf reports. My main concern is not getting big surf, but driving down there and finding the surf is too big for my abilities and I can't sail. I have had the situation where I have driven to Waddell only to find the surf was too big for me to handle and I spent my time watching on the beach.

Can anyone share some info on how best to read the surf report? What are the best resources?

For me, sailing there is as more about the scenery and the occasional swell ride, so I am OK with small surf that true wave sailors would rather skip.


Check out Surfline. They forecast surf heights for Waddell.
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chris_keraly



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the advice! You'll see me out there for sure, hopefully it won't take too many skunks before figuring the place out Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 160 lbs and my main board for Wadell is 85l. I'd recommend getting a 5.2 or 5.4 if possible. When I used to sail there a bunch, often there would be some great lighter wind waves, but when there is some punch slogging out is very very difficult (and a good way to break a mast). Unless you live awfully close, you don't want to have to sit out a session because the wind is 2 mph too low...

At some point a smaller multi-fin wave board would be a good idea, as it is windy down there in the spring!

Lastly, some of my most memorable sessions in my life were on big fall days at Scott's - one in particular came to mind when I car pooled with Ian Boyd and had long mast-high rides until I got cocky and wound up washed up on the rocks!

Have fun, which I was still able to sail down there in a regular basis.
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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MauiMakani wrote:
Its been a few years (okay decades) since I last sailed Waddell, but I have a fond memory of a great point break at Scott Creek between Waddel and Davenport. ....


Scott Creek is a sick place to sail but the kiting scene there has blown up and is particularly territorial with reason. The parking, beach, rigging and sailing area are smaller at Scott Creek than at Waddell. At the same time many have discovered Scotts and from what I can tell the place is packed every weekend there are good sailing conditions. If it wasn't for the crowd I would say Scotts combines the good things about Waddell and Davenport into one spot.

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dllee



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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still recall one day I was down at the rigging spot, just out of the wind, when people were yelling up at upper parking lot, and pointing to the bridge parking adjacent to the highway. Someone was breaking windows in the cars along the bridge, some people were running around down near the bridge, and I was soooo glad I parked on the hill, where I couldn't see my trusty Honda Civic from where I was. Didn't go out that day, just too much excitement on the road after CHP, State Police, and some other uniforms showed up to double park on the S bound traffic lane at the bridge and completely divert traffic, into a one lane traffic jam.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tajella wrote:


Can anyone share some info on how best to read the surf report? What are the best resources?



For a quick approximation of the surf height along that stretch of coast, I use the following formula:

surf_height = swell_height * (swell_period * swell_period) / 150;

Get the swell height and period from the Monterey buoy:

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=46042

For example, using current readings for the South swell now running:

surf_height = 4.3ft * 14.8 * 14.8 / 150 = 6.3 ft.

Note that the period has a squared relationship to surf height.
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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 4:11 pm    Post subject: Car & thefts, chicken jibes, and NRL Fog satellite Reply with quote

Here is how to dial the fog, after you learn the patterns, you can easily predict better than any of the forecasts. It is a very micro-climate, subject to subtle changes (htnx to Ranger Gary on this one)
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/sat-bin/display10.cgi

Thefts - Gazos has had several, the rash of thefts at Davies and Scott several years back, the 'aliens' were caught and busted. Not a politically charged observation, just for info. Up from Watsonville, watched cars left by sailors, and then nailed them.

for reference, in town, at It's - Jan had her whole car stolen, all gear, and there was reported by the cops that 2 cars a week get stolen (wow, really?). This was just a mos ago.

For a pointer on waves... as a local, and yes my hot tub is 2 mile from Waddell, so that's pretty local...

Be good at chicken jibe, not just to save your bacon, but in case you mis judge the inbound wave riders. too often newbies won't wait, and start out when waves & riders are rolling in, where all the have to do is wait 20-30 seconds for spacing, or do a little jibe and then repeat back out. It's easier on a kite, but regardless, give riders room. ALWAYS look over your shoulder before you jibe on wave (first)- don't blast on and turn 180 right into someone downwind and going out. that happens alot.

There's also lot's of beach upwind and down, if you are a hack, seek some open water - more fun anyway. Way south is some great stuff at the lowest reef.

Although entertaining, I prefer not to have to cruise around "clue-less" on the twin tip that just stuffed in front of head high, he is a hazard to both himself and others. Myself and many others gladly will give space, for safety. It's a small local group, and most are darn friendly. There's plenty of waves to go around.

The N break at Scott can often be very competitive, when it's hot, and there's good riders out. You will not be welcome if you f* up in the line there. It's a top shelf venue when going off.

In two weeks, the American Windsurf Tour is super cool, definite should check the scene and party at Joe's in Davenport. though I mostly kite now, they let me drop by anyway cause making the killer fresh fruit margie's in the blender.. such a hoot.

Good luck.
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