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sissybar



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Coal Train Dust Reply with quote

I have to admit I haven't paid much attention to the coal train dust issue. However, enroute to Doug's I was wondering what the hell was that dark cloud blowing off the train.....Coal Dust. How is that permitted, it will introduce literally tons of that foreign crap into the river and air? How expensive could it be to cover those fuking cars. Now I appreciate the issue. Take action.
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beaglebuddy



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow really? That stuff is incredibly bad to breathe, where are they burning this coal?
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WMP



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those trains move full speed around Wind Mountain spilling their loads along the tracks. Nobody seems to care. Seems more important to punish the people who try to access public lands and public waters. What has happened here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umh8u8yeVU8
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johnmcs



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool video WMP! Lol
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surfzephyr1



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:42 am    Post subject: Coal Dust Reply with quote

Its only going to get worse as the demand for coal in the US decreases with coal power plants either converting to natural gas or shutting down due to new EPA regulations. As a result the more and more of the supply will ship to China via west coast ports. The Port of Vancouver has been spending big bucks upgrading its facilities to ship more oil and coal vis-a-vie Gorge rail deliveries. Its concerning for all of us who use the river for recreation. And Hanford - well that's another concerning story...
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surfzephyr1



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:57 am    Post subject: Coal and Oil by Rail Reply with quote

For those of you who are concerned enough to educate yourself about new port expansion proposals that will result in more coal and oil shipments by rail in the Gorge here are some links:

http://www.cityofvancouver.us/cmo/page/hot-topic-oil-and-coal-project-proposals

http://www.efsec.wa.gov/default.shtm

http://www.ecy.wa.gov/geographic/millennium/


Make your voice heard during the pubic comment period for these proposals.

Some staggering stats:

Oil

The proposed Tesoro oil terminal at Port of Vancouver if approved will result in 8 new trains a day, each train 1.5 miles long. The impacts would be devastating for windsurfers. Just think about how this will impact Dougs.

Coal

The proposed Millennium coal terminal at the Longview port will result in 19 new trains a day, each 1.5 miles long.

If both projects are approved we will see [b]27 or more new trains a day[/b].

Ok time for all of us to let our voices be heard.

http://www.opb.org/news/article/corps-announces-the-scope-of-longview-coal-export-/

Here is an extensive report:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fheavytrafficahead.org%2Fpdf%2FHeavy-Traffic-Still-Ahead-web.pdf&ei=4algVfyFHsT3oASUhoHQCg&usg=AFQjCNE7-frLLQPP6V2PU1db5obnWRs2Fg&sig2=Lf2JJry4feSTy5ldDZZFkQ&bvm=bv.93990622,d.cGU


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isobars



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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With each passing day, Hanford gets a bit cleaner and the coal dust problem gets worse. I suspect that if that video's dust cloud is real, people will solve that problem by the courts or by more direct means if necessary.
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dhanson928



Joined: 12 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Perfect Storm train wreck... could easily happen at that siding near Doug's....I live nearby and often pass that when there's a coal train sidetracked and an Oil train passing it a foot or two away at speed. We all know many of the grass fires are caused by train sparks...

It'd really be some disaster if 100+ Oil tanker cars combined and combusted with 100+ coal cars...Right here in the National Scenic area on the west coast's mainstreet river for migrating fish....

I must say it is rare when I can actually exit the Lyle tunnel going east and even see the river...there is almost always a coal train, an oil train, or a trash train parked on that siding..24hrs a day...Some Scenic Area....
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QUIGME



Joined: 18 Jan 2000
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PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 2:34 pm    Post subject: coal trains and what you can do Reply with quote

Check out this video, then join local clean air, water advocates that are fighting for us and our future...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uS1VVDVw5k
Friends of the Gorge and Columbia Riverkeepers need your support!
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