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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:05 pm    Post subject: Interesting Clip Reply with quote

http://tinyurl.com/glyo2rz

A young turks interview with Col. Lawrence Wilkerson - not exactly a radical lefty.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that the leftists cry racist when neither Islam or Mexican is a race. Pure and simply, do we have a nation or a free for all? If it's a free for all, just open the borders and let it be.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that link does not work.... Is this what you were citing?



https://youtu.be/kKIPCnLaUYk
part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nFnggBHFUo

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Interesting that the leftists cry racist when neither Islam or Mexican is a race. Pure and simply, do we have a nation or a free for all? If it's a free for all, just open the borders and let it be.


You're complaining in the wrong thread. Or, perhaps, you're always complaining? Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baja-human wrote:
that link does not work.... Is this what you were citing?



https://youtu.be/kKIPCnLaUYk
part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nFnggBHFUo


Yes that's the one.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to virtually the entire testimony of Richard Clarke, as well as the FBI agents that were under oath in the 9-11 commision. They answered ever single question put to them.

IE Clarke head of counter terrorism was removed and be-rated by Rice for jumping up and down saying the chatter was so high that something urgently needed to be done. IE that Bush et al did not really care. So he was in essence demoted for his activities. He said under Clinton any time he was up in arms Clinton gave him complete co-operation and had all the top heads of departments meet. IE that is how they believe they stopped the Y2K plot.

Clarke was the only administration official that agreed to be under oath and answer any question and in public. the rest were covering their ashes. They should have all been impeached as noted in the original clip..

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Clarke and his communications with the Bush administration regarding bin Laden and associated terrorist plots targeting the United States were mentioned frequently in Condoleezza Rice's public interview by the 9/11 investigatory commission on April 8, 2004. Of particular significance was a memo[14] from January 25, 2001, that Clarke had authored and sent to Condoleezza Rice. Along with making an urgent request for a meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss the growing al-Qaeda threat in the greater Middle East, the memo also suggests strategies for combating al-Qaeda that might be adopted by the new Bush administration.[15]

In his memoir, "Against All Enemies", Clarke wrote that Condoleezza Rice made a decision that the position of National Coordinator for Counterterrorism should be downgraded. By demoting the office, the Administration sent a signal through the national security bureaucracy about the salience they assigned to terrorism. No longer would Clarke's memos go to the President; instead they had to pass through a chain of command of National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice and her deputy Stephen Hadley, who bounced every one of them back.

Within a week of the inauguration, I wrote to Rice and Hadley asking 'urgently' for a Principals, or Cabinet-level, meeting to review the imminent Al-Qaeda threat. Rice told me that the Principals Committee, which had been the first venue for terrorism policy discussions in the Clinton administration, would not address the issue until it had been 'framed' by the Deputies.[16]

At the first Deputies Committee meeting on Terrorism held in April 2001, Clarke strongly suggested that the U.S. put pressure on both the Taliban and Al-Qaeda by arming the Northern Alliance and other groups in Afghanistan. Simultaneously, that they target bin Laden and his leadership by reinitiating flights of the MQ-1 Predators. To which Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz responded, "Well, I just don't understand why we are beginning by talking about this one man bin Laden." Clarke replied that he was talking about bin Laden and his network because it posed "an immediate and serious threat to the United States." According to Clarke, Wolfowitz turned to him and said, "You give bin Laden too much credit. He could not do all these things like the 1993 attack on New York, not without a state sponsor. Just because FBI and CIA have failed to find the linkages does not mean they don't exist."[16]

Clarke wrote in Against All Enemies that in the summer of 2001, the intelligence community was convinced of an imminent attack by al Qaeda, but could not get the attention of the highest levels of the Bush administration, most famously writing that Director of the Central Intelligence Agency George Tenet was running around with his "hair on fire".[16]

At a July 5, 2001, White House gathering of the FAA, the Coast Guard, the FBI, Secret Service and INS, Clarke stated that "something really spectacular is going to happen here, and it's going to happen soon."


Note the day before 9-11 the administration under ashcroft stated they were cutting funding for counter-terrorism in a speech.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/news/2004/03/22/644/911-internal-government-documents-show-how-the-bush-administration-reduced-counterterrorism/

9/11: Internal Government Documents Show How the Bush Administration Reduced Counterterrorism

9/10/2001 – Official FY2003 Dept. of Justice Budget Request To White House: Official FY03 DoJ budget request from Attorney General Ashcroft to OMB Director Mitch Daniels, dated September 10, 2001. This document specifically highlights only the programs slated for above-baseline increases or below-baseline cuts. On page 29 of the PDF, Ashcroft outlines the programs he is trying to cut. Comparing this document to FBI's request to DoJ, it shows that Ashcroft ignored FBI's anti-terrorism requests (detailed in this internal FBI document). More specifically, this document shows that Ashcroft was planning to ignore the FBI's specific requests for more translators, counterintelligence agents and researchers, mentioned above. It additionally shows Ashcroft was trying to slash funding from counterterrorism and grants and other homeland defense programs before 9/11.

Post 9/11 – Budget Document Detailing OMB Rejection of FBI Counter-Terror Request: Internal document showing that FBI requested $1.499 billion for counterterrorism for the post-September 11 emergency supplemental but received just $530 million from the White House, despite serious counterterrorism needs.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow the money. As one Director I worked for said, don't tell me what your priorities are, tell me what your budget is and I will know your priorities. Bush ignored the present threats of attack in both court testimony on the first World Trade Center bombing, and the intelligence under Clark. But he then attacked Iraq--a non-participant. Worst president ever?
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