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Socalsailor



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:21 pm    Post subject: Sticky mast joint Reply with quote

Got a new naish sdm100. The mast joint is a little sticky. I can get it on there further if I really jam it on there but it takes a good bit of work to get the pieces back apart. Anyone else have this issue/will it make the mast more susceptible to breakage like this? I'm assuming that as I use it, it should loosen up and wear down some but I've never seen it before.


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isobars



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you got the mast for $50, keep it.

Otherwise, if I couldn't find and easily fix a distinct small problem, I'd expect a new mast under warranty. Ferrules getting stuck due to an errant grain of sand are bad enough with masts that work WELL, and yours has a head start down a road to endless angst, rage, and ultimately a heart attack.

We'll miss you. Smile
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I'd get that replaced, or at least sand down the ferrule. Like Mike
says, it's hard enough getting those things apart when they get sand in
them. Looks like trouble to me.

-Craig

p.s. you probably don't want to be rigging that without the ferrule fully engaged for a number of reasons.
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churan



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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what it is worth.. always tape the two sections together each time you rig. Stucco tape. duct tape. whatever. keeps sand from entering and cementing the pieces together. that said there is a plug in the upper piece that may be preventing the lower from fully engaging. for 500 new id send it back.
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Socalsailor



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sand isn't really my concern here. I'm more worried about how the joint will act under load when the two pieces are not completely joined. Like I said, I can mostly close the gap if I really crank it on it. You can see a darker line on the male end where I've done that a couple times. I'm just thinking it might end up fixing itself as it wears down a little after a few outings. Just wondering if anyone else saw this with naish masts. I'll send them an email, anyways.
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sand it
Until it fits properly.

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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Socalsailor wrote:
I'm more worried about how the joint will act under load when the two pieces are not completely joined.

Act? It will literally break. I've watched rigs laying on the ground and while slogging start quivering, make alarming noises, then snap right in two, because their ferrules were not seated fully.

"Send them an email"? At the very least it creates a paper trail for when the mast snaps or welds together. If that and/or a phone call don't have them falling over backwards to replace the mast, I'd send them a registered letter with photographs and demand immediate replacement. Otherwise you're risking a long swim, a broken mast, a torn luff sleeve, and maybe even some carbon fiber in your carcass.

Surely your dealer will replace it immediately. It's his job; going to Naish should be his job, but failing that you have recourse with Naish. Don't wait, or both may rightfully say you damaged it somehow unless an autopsy proves otherwise. With any luck, Naish might even replace it this season, unlike what Feeblespar/Fibersnap used to do ... take many months to get around to it and only after you send them the damaged section.

(Tip: Nolimitz? Immediate, on-the-spot replacement at the dealer or the factory.)
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coachg



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second tip: Nolimitz doesn't make SDM masts.

Coachg
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isobars



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A. No need. Their F.A.S.T. RDM mast fills the bill.

B. There are others reading this forum.
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2016 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, under load that mast, as you show it, is very likely to snap. Maybe
the downhaul will pull it into position, but usually not. I wouldn't presume
it'll wear in enough to be useable. Take some sandpaper to the ferrule
where the "dark line" is. I have a dandy Naish 460 100% Firestick, which I
bought brand new. It's been my favorite mast for years. When it was
brand new, the ferrule easily fit into the mast and I could easily rotate the
2 mast pieces opposite each other, no "wearing in" required.

-Craig

Socalsailor wrote:
Sand isn't really my concern here. I'm more worried about how the joint will act under load when the two pieces are not completely joined. Like I said, I can mostly close the gap if I really crank it on it. You can see a darker line on the male end where I've done that a couple times. I'm just thinking it might end up fixing itself as it wears down a little after a few outings. Just wondering if anyone else saw this with naish masts. I'll send them an email, anyways.
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