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MS Mutant 3.8 with extended vario top, or Aerotech Air X 3.7

 
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mthompson156



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:27 am    Post subject: MS Mutant 3.8 with extended vario top, or Aerotech Air X 3.7 Reply with quote

Looking at a new 3.8 Maui Sails Mutant. http://www.mauisails.com/sail.php?id=164

Recommended mast (per MS) = 340 with 2cm vario top, 5cm base extension
alternate mast (per MS) = 370 with 31cm vario top, 4cm base extension

I only have a 370 and am not interested in adding yet another mast. Anyone have any experience/opinions on how this might work out? 31cm up top seems like an awful lot(?) My other option is Aerotech Air X 3.7..roughly the same price, and specs for a 370 mast. I have tried the Aerotech very briefly (on flat water) and it felt pretty good.

Usage would be almost entirely in backside wave/swell conditions, possibly a little frontside wave.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

airx has been historically very adaptive to a large variety of masts. also, i prefer MORE battens in my smallest sails. allows for more stability in gusty and stormy conditions
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jingebritsen wrote:
i prefer MORE battens in my smallest sails. allows for more stability in gusty and stormy conditions


That's interesting that you say that, because I was thinking the exact same thing. The winds are always going to be gustier once it gets to that point. There is also no need to have a "light" 3.7 I don't think...anything that small is already light. Would much rather have something with range and stability.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest the 340 mast. You pick the sail.

For sale 3.3 EZZY PANTHER LIMITED,5 B, 340 or 370, same 31cm out the head on the 370.
Depending on your existing mast may be a option.
2012, almost the same as a 2013Tiger. X cel lent cond.
PM if interested, ship from Colorado.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO,
U2U2U2 wrote:
31cm out the head
should never be an option. once you buy a 340, it is likely so strong, It might just last 15 years, unless it meets its demise on a reef or in the break.
Having a mast sticking out a bit is ok, but too much and the sail will never be right. Not really what you want in high wind, especially with sails that aren't well researched to work well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP asked about 2 sails.

spec's on airx

3.7 355* 140 5 0 370/17 2.40

http://www.aerotechsails.com/air.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update...used the Air X yesterday for a few hours in good conditions. Best 3.7 I have ever used. So that solves that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VinceSF wrote:
IMHO,
U2U2U2 wrote:
31cm out the head
should never be an option. once you buy a 340, it is likely so strong, It might just last 15 years, unless it meets its demise on a reef or in the break.
Having a mast sticking out a bit is ok, but too much and the sail will never be right. Not really what you want in high wind, especially with sails that aren't well researched to work well.


Well... The 1st line of my post said 340. Only if you use a 370 does it extend out the head, not clear your meaning on lack of reasearch?

Umm..must be why I have 310--thru 460 masts

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mthompson156 wrote:
Update...used the Air X yesterday for a few hours in good conditions. Best 3.7 I have ever used. So that solves that.



Ummm

Did you use the existing 370 ?

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