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martyrosse



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:49 pm    Post subject: OB-kite on rocks, no kiter Reply with quote

orange, silver and black kite just south of cliff house. i'm investigating. gnarly conditions and cross swell.
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martyrosse



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no sign of kiter. am checking parking lot. please call me at 415-706-8008 if you hear that this person is safe.
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martyrosse



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i called this in to the coast guard.
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kvm



Joined: 07 May 1998
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys - that kite belongs to Alex Black. He is fine and the Coast Guard knows not to look for anyone in the water. His mobile is 510-502-7885. He's driving back that way now (4:20pm) Saturday 1/7.

If someone ends up with the kite or has more information about it's location, please call Alex at the number above.

Many thanks!
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martyrosse



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just talked to Alex and gave him exact location of the kite. Glad he's ok! Thanks for posting
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great that someone is paying attention to errant kites (and maybe boards). Both are so common around here that the primary concern is to whom we might return them if ever found. I saw one kite just up and fly away out of the hands of a guy standing near shore, coming down on a hill miles away (60 highway miles). The owner's response? "Crap! There goes another one."

Lost boards seem like a daily occurrence. They must be cheap.
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sailtildark



Joined: 22 Mar 2012
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are a lot cheaper (like 1/3 to 1/4) than sailboards and a hell of a lot easier to fix too!
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andydavis



Joined: 11 Apr 1999
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Location: Point Isabel

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:37 pm    Post subject: Flotsam vs jetsam Reply with quote

As a kiter (former windsurfer), I have not yet had to eject my kite; however, if I had to, it would be with no expectation that it would be returned. Under Maritime Law,flotsam is defined as debris in the water that was not deliberately thrown overboard, often as a result from a shipwreck or accident. Jetsam is deliberately thrown overboard from a vessel in distress.

Flotsam may be claimed by the owner; whereas jetsam may be claimed as property of whoever discovers it. So maybe if he was doing some unhooked maneuver and it got away from him, then he would have a claim on it, but if he ejected it in distress, then he doesn't.

One way or the other, the reward to whoever salvages the kite should be pretty generous...minimum a case of beer or a couple of bottles of pretty decent wine.
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fxop



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would maritime law apply to a situation I saw in Maui at Sprecks recently?

One kite had gotten loose and had swept up another kite, which was providing drag as the two sailed merrily along. They disappeared over the dunes heading for the radar station.

In that case does top kite or bottom kite have the salvage rights?

fxop
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andydavis



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Location: Point Isabel

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fxop wrote:
How would maritime law apply to a situation I saw in Maui at Sprecks recently?

One kite had gotten loose and had swept up another kite, which was providing drag as the two sailed merrily along. They disappeared over the dunes heading for the radar station.

In that case does top kite or bottom kite have the salvage rights?

fxop


not necessarily a salvage case, but the guy who lost his kite would be liable for damages...kind of like a piece of plywood flying off your car and wrecking the car to leeward.
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