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mrgybe
Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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boggsman1 wrote: | That's fine, you can file that right next to your prediction about Apple sans Steve Jobs. |
Nice try. If you could clear your weed filled brain for a second, you may recall that we've been down this path before. I merely stated that investors would have to be cautious following the departure of someone who was so central to Apple. Any intelligent investor would agree. If it makes you happy to put that on a par with an investment "professional" predicting 7% GDP growth 6 years ago, or a massive crash in the stock market if Trump was elected, or dismissing ISIS as a bunch of malcontents in used Toyota pick-ups........all dead wrong........be my guest. I would have thought you would already be happy enough earning way more than you are worth. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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mrgybe wrote: | You should also know that I never say anything without being able to back it up.........a novel concept for you left coast dwellers. |
Another idle boast. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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mrgybe wrote: | As you should know by now by now, my realism has trumped (sorry, that was insensitive) your irrational exuberance every time. You should also know that I never say anything without being able to back it up.........a novel concept for you left coast dwellers. |
Still waiting for this exuberant claim to be supported. Easier to brag than deliver. Maybe Rex can send you talking points. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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So Obama gives clemency to Chelsea Manning, a treasonous WikiLeaks leaker, who was trying to damage our military, but that must be okay.
But if anyone leaks info about Hillary or Podesta, well that's a whole lot different, can't have that!
So it must depend on what the leaks were about.
He's left his media's heads spinning, how can they explain this? It kind of fun watching them try.
Which is it Obama your party, or your country?
Hardly a feather on the cap of your legacy, more like a bird turd. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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The real legacy
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Democrats in the Wilderness
Inside a decimated party’s not-so-certain revival strategy.
By Edward-Isaac Dovere
January 19, 2017
Standing with some 30,000 people in front of Independence Hall in Philadelphia the night before the election watching Hillary Clinton speak, exhausted aides were already worrying about what would come next. They expected her to win, of course, but they knew President Clinton was going to get thrashed in the 2018 midterms—the races were tilted in Republicans’ favor, and that’s when they thought the backlash would really hit. Many assumed she’d be a one-term president. They figured she’d get a primary challenge. Some of them had already started gaming out names for who it would be.
“Last night I stood at your doorstep / Trying to figure out what went wrong,” Bruce Springsteen sang quietly to the crowd in what he called “a prayer for post-election.” “It’s gonna be a long walk home.”
What happened the next night shocked even the most pessimistic Democrats. But in another sense, it was the reckoning the party had been expecting for years. They were counting on a Clinton win to paper over a deeper rot they’ve been worrying about—and to buy them some time to start coming up with answers. In other words, it wasn’t just Donald Trump. Or the Russians. Or James Comey. Or all the problems with how Clinton and her aides ran the campaign. Win or lose, Democrats were facing an existential crisis in the years ahead—the result of years of complacency, ignoring the withering of the grass roots and the state parties, sitting by as Republicans racked up local win after local win.
For the rest~
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/democrats-trump-administration-wilderness-comeback-revival-214650 |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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And lets not forget he got a free pass from the press. Was never held accountable for ANYTHING!!! it was a joke to say the least. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Meanwhile, under Obama's approach, the Iraq army just took over most of Mosul--against the forces created when Bush's guy in Iraq de-Naathified the Iraq army. Some say he just didn't blow his horn enough. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | Meanwhile, under Obama's approach, the Iraq army just took over most of Mosul--against the forces created when Bush's guy in Iraq de-Naathified the Iraq army. Some say he just didn't blow his horn enough. |
Obamas approach? Do you mean the half million dead in Syria and a world wide refugee crisis because of his lack luster interest.
Obama had a chance to critically diminish ISIS and he did next to nothing. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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No kidding!
Mosul should have never been taken over by ISIS in the first place (under Obama's watch), but that's what happens when you draw a red line with a cheap crayon instead of a solid permanent marker. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty wrote: | mac wrote: | Meanwhile, under Obama's approach, the Iraq army just took over most of Mosul--against the forces created when Bush's guy in Iraq de-Naathified the Iraq army. Some say he just didn't blow his horn enough. |
Obamas approach? Do you mean the half million dead in Syria and a world wide refugee crisis because of his lack luster interest.
Obama had a chance to critically diminish ISIS and he did next to nothing. |
Ooh, instant talking points, delivered from Breitbart and Drudge. No need to think.
Obama certainly asked, and knew, what level of ground troops would be required both in Iraq and Syria. We had already seen in Iraq and Libya, and to a lesser extent in Egypt, how badly nation building could go. And we knew how expensive wars in the Middle East could be--and that trying to do it on the cheap in Iraq without sufficient armor or understanding dramatically increased casualties.
You wanna be soldiers don't actually have to think through alternatives, you've been trained to type invectives without thinking. You probably missed this one too:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/03/iran-nuclear-deal-israel/472767/
Quote: | Ephraim Halevy, the former chief of Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, Mossad, issued a similar assessment: “I believe this agreement closes the roads and blocks the road to Iranian nuclear military capabilities for at least a decade. And I believe that the arrangements that have been agreed between the parties are such that [they] give us a credible answer to the Iranian military threat, at least for a decade, if not longer.” |
It certainly doesn't eliminate the threat posed Israel by Iran as they strive for hegemony in the region, and fund destabilizing efforts such as Hezbollah. But then complicated things go right by many of those on the right. |
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