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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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paulf. wrote: | it is surmised that LeeD and zirtaeb are the same person.. how strange. |
He's made no secret of that. It depends on which computer or account he's using. |
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shreddbob
Joined: 31 Mar 1987 Posts: 361 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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jpeter wrote: | Evaporation of water cools you off. |
And...when you're immersed you heat up the layer of water in your suit, and that water keeps you warmer. For windsurf you don't have the water layer, you have the evaporation, and if you do fall in you have to suddenly heat up a big slug of water entering wetsuit. That's why drysuit necessary under 50.
And if you've recently returned from Maui you need 2 drysuits |
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:23 am Post subject: |
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With a drysuit: 37 degrees in full sun, 40 overcast. Water temp 33+. It's enjoyable if you have your waterstarts wired and are 50% + on jibes. Frequent breaks, shorter overall sessions, but good times are to be had. One of the regular guys I sail with does this in a 6/5/4 by the way. _________________ Michael
http://www.peconicpuffin.com |
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ramps
Joined: 07 May 2000 Posts: 94
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:30 am Post subject: |
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What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water. |
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boardsurfr
Joined: 23 Aug 2001 Posts: 1266
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 9:58 am Post subject: |
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ramps wrote: | What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water. |
That's an important point. I always dress warm enough to make it to shore, even if I'd have to swim. I always sail in safe (usually onshore) conditions when it's cold, but there is often nobody on the water, or just one other windsurfer on small gear. Hypothermia can set in very quickly if underdressed. Some of the first effects are lack of coordination and "confusion and poor decision making". I have seen "chilled" windsurfers behave quite irrationally, which was only funny because they were on land already. |
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cgoudie1
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 2599 Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 10:02 am Post subject: |
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The loss of a friend is always harsh, cold water is dangerous, no question.
You can live in fear, or you can prudently run the risk. Personally, what
drives me off the water is not fear of death, but the pain of cold hands and face (plus I have a Winter diversion that I love as well). I've got nice
drysuits and I use them when it works for me. I tend to dress for a
long swim, but I think the last time I cogitated the possibility of not
returning while dressing on the beach was, well, like never.
-Craig
p.s. I had an encounter with cold air and water which went bad during a
waterski trip, good fortune (or providence) was with me that day, or I
might not be typing now.
ramps wrote: | What if you suffer a breakdown or other emergency and have to spend an hour or more in the water? A friend of mine perished because he had some kind of mishap that kept him from getting out of the cold water. |
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braden
Joined: 12 Jun 1987 Posts: 73 Location: Providence RI
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:17 am Post subject: |
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In April 2016 I was sailing, the wind dropped and I had to swim myself and the board back to shore, took about 10 min. Wearing drysuit. Some citizen thought I had been hit by a barge and called rescue, they were waiting for me. They put me in their vehicle to warm up, said my temperature was 93F! I was surprised because I'd been working hard. I didn't feel cold (till later), wasn't shivering.
Anyway, at 72, decided to forego further cold-water sailing. |
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dllee
Joined: 03 Jul 2009 Posts: 5329 Location: East Bay
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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If your board is narrower than 72 cm's in width, just sit atop your board, mast straight out towards the nose of the board, frog kick with both legs, and you go 1.5 feet every kick.
Doing the math, 300 kicks get's you easily 200 yards. 300 kicks is a lot, but you're sitting dry atop your board. |
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shreddbob
Joined: 31 Mar 1987 Posts: 361 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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zirtaeb wrote: | If your board is narrower than 72 cm's in width, just sit atop your board, mast straight out towards the nose of the board, frog kick with both legs |
So you're saying propel the board tail first? |
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