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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
I question that conclusion. Once others took over Trump's casinos, they were able to again profit.

You have to look deeper at how Trump mismanaged his finances and debt obligations. Also, it's important to remember that Trump screwed a lot of folks to escape from his casino disasters.


Far more complicated than that SWC. The banks were big boys, and Trump saved thousands of jobs. Almost all NJ casinos went BK in those days.


You can't explain this to a liberal, most have never run a business and have no idea how hard it is..


Always good for a laugh. So many "savvy" businessmen have simplistic models. In the case of gambling, in multiple places throughout the country, investors assumed continued growth rather than display any understanding of the limited market that they had, and the competition among areas for market share. Happened to riverboat gamblers on the Mississippi at the same time, and to Indian casinos.

The difference with Trump is that he suckered the Atlantic City investors before he suckered nearly half the country.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a tidbit MAtty...
At the same time DJT was down 94%, MGM was up 600%....Doesn't really support your bogus theory. DJT was a short seller's dream, and Trump fleeced it, like he and his cronies are fleecing the knuckleheads that voted for him right now.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
I question that conclusion. Once others took over Trump's casinos, they were able to again profit.

You have to look deeper at how Trump mismanaged his finances and debt obligations. Also, it's important to remember that Trump screwed a lot of folks to escape from his casino disasters.


Far more complicated than that SWC. The banks were big boys, and Trump saved thousands of jobs. Almost all NJ casinos went BK in those days.


You can't explain this to a liberal, most have never run a business and have no idea how hard it is..


Always good for a laugh. So many "savvy" businessmen have simplistic models. In the case of gambling, in multiple places throughout the country, investors assumed continued growth rather than display any understanding of the limited market that they had, and the competition among areas for market share. Happened to riverboat gamblers on the Mississippi at the same time, and to Indian casinos.

The difference with Trump is that he suckered the Atlantic City investors before he suckered nearly half the country.


Mac go cash your union pension check and have some apple sauce. I am pretty sure you never had to meet payroll in your life.
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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
Here's a tidbit MAtty...
At the same time DJT was down 94%, MGM was up 600%....Doesn't really support your bogus theory. DJT was a short seller's dream, and Trump fleeced it, like he and his cronies are fleecing the knuckleheads that voted for him right now.


That's a lot of people to insult Boggs. We didn't get fleeced. We saw what the left had to offer, and after 8 years of a radicalized anti-American closet Muslim, Trump looked like a champ.
Zero regrets, I would take him on his worse day over Madame DB that fools like you seem to idolize.

Stop being a whiney bitch and count your money..
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stay on topic.. Trump and Atlantic City. Unmitigated disaster, but not for him.
Shareholders- crushed
Bond holders- crushed
DJT- made out like a bandit... He even applauded BK as a success.. He crushed all investors but made $2-3 hundred mm himself. Disgusting to me, a hero to the sycophants.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
mac wrote:
mat-ty wrote:
MalibuGuru wrote:
swchandler wrote:
I question that conclusion. Once others took over Trump's casinos, they were able to again profit.

You have to look deeper at how Trump mismanaged his finances and debt obligations. Also, it's important to remember that Trump screwed a lot of folks to escape from his casino disasters.


Far more complicated than that SWC. The banks were big boys, and Trump saved thousands of jobs. Almost all NJ casinos went BK in those days.


You can't explain this to a liberal, most have never run a business and have no idea how hard it is..



Always good for a laugh. So many "savvy" businessmen have simplistic models. In the case of gambling, in multiple places throughout the country, investors assumed continued growth rather than display any understanding of the limited market that they had, and the competition among areas for market share. Happened to riverboat gamblers on the Mississippi at the same time, and to Indian casinos.

The difference with Trump is that he suckered the Atlantic City investors before he suckered nearly half the country.


Mac go cash your union pension check and have some apple sauce. I am pretty sure you never had to meet payroll in your life.

I like that, a nice to the point post.
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Free of facts and insight—as usual.
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