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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Talk about corrupt--Trump asks Comey to stop investigating his BFF Flynn, who has broken numerous laws and lied to the Vice President--among others. Perhaps all to further Trump's favorite crime, money laundering, and Trump's pay-off, funds for a real estate development--or two or three--in Russia that he actually invests nothing in. You are just jake with obstruction of justice. You sick puppy.


Comey knew Trump was not under investigation, But led the public and world to believe he was. That is a threat to our National Security and disgraceful behavior by anyone.
No surprise you would defend this behavior, as long as it hurt Trump.
The left has spent a year and tens of millions of dollars and PRODUCED NOTHING!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lunatics repeating Trump tweets. Comey is a Republican and highly respected. Unlike Trump, he immediately fired the staff person who wasn't unbiased.

And the Clinton Foundation only used about 10% of funds received to help out with the causes that they claimed the foundation was for.
Token gestures for cover, nothing more.
The general public is becoming more intelligent than the liberals would like to believe.

Comey may be a Republican, but he's definitely not respected by Republicans, or even Hillary for that matter, you are fooling nobody.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
Lunatics repeating Trump tweets. Comey is a Republican and highly respected. Unlike Trump, he immediately fired the staff person who wasn't unbiased.

And the Clinton Foundation only used about 10% of funds received to help out with the causes that they claimed the foundation was for.
Token gestures for cover, nothing more.
The general public is becoming more intelligent than the liberals would like to believe.

Comey may be a Republican, but he's definitely not respected by Republicans, or even Hillary for that matter, you are fooling nobody.



And the Clinton foundation mysteriously closed their doors after they were exposed for the PAY TO PLAY operation they were running....Liberal Scum
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

December has brought astonishing screwups. Professor and venerable political observer Walter Russell Mead tweeted on December 8, “I remember Watergate pretty well, and I don’t remember anything like this level of journalistic carelessness back then. The constant stream of ‘bombshells’ that turn into duds is doing much more to damage the media than anything Trump could manage.”

On December 1, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross went on air and made a remarkable claim. For months, the media have been furiously trying to prove collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Ross reported that former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who had just pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, was prepared to testify that President Trump had instructed him to contact Russian officials before the 2016 election, while Trump was still a candidate. If true, it would have been a gamechanger. But Ross’s claim was inaccurate. Flynn’s documented attempts to contact the Russians came after Trump was president-elect, allegedly trying to lay diplomatic groundwork for the new administration. Ross was suspended by ABC for four weeks without pay for the error.

Later that same weekend, the New York Times ran a story about Trump transition official K. T. McFarland, charging that she had lied to congressional investigators about knowledge of the Trump transition team’s contacts with Russia. The article went through four headline changes and extensive edits after it was first published, substantially softening and backing away from claims made in the original version. The first headline made a definitive claim: “McFarland Contradicted Herself on Russia Contacts, Congressional Testimony Shows.” The headline now reads “Former Aide’s Testimony on Russia Is Questioned.” The website Newsdiffs, which tracks edits of articles after publication, shows nearly the entire body of the article was rewritten. (The Times website makes no mention of the changes.)

Still in that first weekend of December, Senator Orrin Hatch criticized the excesses of federal welfare programs, saying, “I have a rough time wanting to spend billions and billions and trillions of dollars to help people who won’t help themselves.” The quote was taken wildly out of context. MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough as well as journalists from Mic, Newsweek, and the Los Angeles Times reported that Hatch was directly criticizing the Children’s Health Insurance Program, with some suggesting Hatch thought children should be put to work to pay for subsidized health care. Not only was Hatch not criticizing the CHIP program, he cowrote the recent bill to extend its funding.

On December 5, Reuters and Bloomberg reported that special counsel Robert Mueller had subpoenaed Deutsche Bank account records of President Trump and family members, possibly related to business done in Russia. The report was later corrected to say Mueller was subpoenaing “people or entities close to Mr. Trump.”

Then on December 8, another Russia bombshell turned into a dud. CNN’s Manu Raju and Jeremy Herb reported Donald Trump Jr. had been sent an email on September 4, 2016, with a decryption key to a WikiLeaks trove of hacked emails from Clinton confidant and Democratic operative John Podesta—that is, before the hacked emails were made public. (WikiLeaks is widely surmised to act as a front for Russian intelligence.) MSNBC and CBS quickly claimed to have confirmed CNN’s scoop. Within hours, though, CNN’s report was discredited. The email was sent on September 14, after the hacked Podesta emails had been made publicly available. CNN later admitted it never saw the email it was reporting the contents of.

This is just eight days’ worth of blundering. Since October of last year, when Franklin Foer at Slate filed an erroneous report on a computer server in Trump Tower communicating with a Russian bank, there have been an unprecedented number of media faceplants, most of them directly related to the Russia-collusion theory. The errors always run in the same direction—they report or imply that the Trump campaign was in league with Moscow. For a politicized and overwhelmingly liberal press corps, the wish that this story be true is obviously the father to the errors. Just as obviously, there are precedents for such high-profile embarrassments in the past. (Remember Dan Rather’s “scoop” on George W. Bush’s National Guard service?) But flawed reporting in the Trump era is becoming more the norm than the exception, suggesting the media have become far too willing to abandon some pretty basic journalistic standards.

Editors at top news organizations once treated anonymous sourcing as a necessary evil, a tool to be used sparingly. Now anonymous sources dominate Trump coverage. It’s not just a problem for readers, who should rightly be skeptical of information someone isn’t willing to vouch for by name. It’s a problem for reporters, too, because anonymous sources are less likely to be cautious and diligent in providing information. According to CNN, the sources behind the busted report on Trump Jr.’s contact with WikiLeaks didn’t intend to deceive and had been reliable in the past. Maybe so, but given the network’s repeated errors it’s difficult to just take CNN’s word for it.

But it’s one thing to use anonymous sources; it’s quite another to be entirely trusting of them. CNN decided to report the contents of an email to Donald Trump Jr. based only on the say-so of two anonymous sources and without seeing the emails. “I remember when I was [a staffer] on the Ways and Means committee and I would try and give reporters stories, and I remember the Wall Street Journal demanded to see a document,” former Bush administration press secretary Ari Fleischer tells The Weekly Standard. “They wouldn’t take it from me if I didn’t give them the document, and I thought, ‘Good for them!’ ”
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
Lunatics repeating Trump tweets. Comey is a Republican and highly respected. Unlike Trump, he immediately fired the staff person who wasn't unbiased.

And the Clinton Foundation only used about 10% of funds received to help out with the causes that they claimed the foundation was for.
Token gestures for cover, nothing more.
The general public is becoming more intelligent than the liberals would like to believe.

Comey may be a Republican, but he's definitely not respected by Republicans, or even Hillary for that matter, you are fooling nobody.


This is your argument? The pussy grabber stole from his foundation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-apparently-admits-to-violating-ban-on-self-dealing-new-filing-to-irs-shows/2016/11/22/893f6508-b0a9-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html?utm_term=.33e01ad267c6
He promised people money—and none was actually delivered.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation are not only wrong, and slanderous, they have been thoroughly rebutted. One such: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

More here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/01/fact-checking-clinton-foundation-controversy/

Again, you display your profound ignorance and bias. Here I thought you were scouring the internet to find at least one occasion when you had complained about bigoted comments by a conservative. What does NW stand for?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty wrote:
nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
Lunatics repeating Trump tweets. Comey is a Republican and highly respected. Unlike Trump, he immediately fired the staff person who wasn't unbiased.

And the Clinton Foundation only used about 10% of funds received to help out with the causes that they claimed the foundation was for.
Token gestures for cover, nothing more.
The general public is becoming more intelligent than the liberals would like to believe.

Comey may be a Republican, but he's definitely not respected by Republicans, or even Hillary for that matter, you are fooling nobody.



And the Clinton foundation mysteriously closed their doors after they were exposed for the PAY TO PLAY operation they were running....Liberal Scum



liar liar liar.... maddie the trust fund kid like trump is a liar liar... no links to his lies... you Russian propaganda supporting troll...


are you a pussy grabber and child rapist too like trump?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Bard, shouldn't you be honest and identify who you plagiarized in your last post?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
Lunatics repeating Trump tweets. Comey is a Republican and highly respected. Unlike Trump, he immediately fired the staff person who wasn't unbiased.

And the Clinton Foundation only used about 10% of funds received to help out with the causes that they claimed the foundation was for.
Token gestures for cover, nothing more.
The general public is becoming more intelligent than the liberals would like to believe.

Comey may be a Republican, but he's definitely not respected by Republicans, or even Hillary for that matter, you are fooling nobody.


This is your argument? The pussy grabber stole from his foundation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-apparently-admits-to-violating-ban-on-self-dealing-new-filing-to-irs-shows/2016/11/22/893f6508-b0a9-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html?utm_term=.33e01ad267c6
He promised people money—and none was actually delivered.

Your comments about the Clinton Foundation are not only wrong, and slanderous, they have been thoroughly rebutted. One such: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

More here: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/01/fact-checking-clinton-foundation-controversy/

Again, you display your profound ignorance and bias. Here I thought you were scouring the internet to find at least one occasion when you had complained about bigoted comments by a conservative. What does NW stand for?


Bull crap Mac. Even the Lawyers for the Clinton foundation knew something was wrong.
If Trump was doing anything similar which has not been proven. HE WAS NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THE HIGHEST RANKS OF OUR GOVORMENT AT THE TIME, yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference.

Here's an interesting opinion more recently written from a left leaning rag.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-clinton-foundation-investigation-russia-20171120-story.html

Not only does this article point out the glaring questions about the CF, it also shows the democrats connection to Russia which has been basically ignored but the Lame stream media.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
December has brought astonishing screwups. Professor and venerable political observer Walter Russell Mead tweeted on December 8, “I remember Watergate pretty well, and I don’t remember anything like this level of journalistic carelessness back then. The constant stream of ‘bombshells’ that turn into duds is doing much more to damage the media than anything Trump could manage.”

On December 1, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross went on air and made a remarkable claim. For months, the media have been furiously trying to prove reporters stories, and I remember the Wall Street Journal demanded to see a document,” former Bush administration press secretary Ari Fleischer tells The Weekly Standard. “They wouldn’t take it from me if I didn’t give them the document, and I thought, ‘Good for them!’ ”


you friggin moron trust fund boy low level thinker, definitely a lucifer... Watergate was only opened because of an anonymous source....

And in that one the guy demanded he be anonymous till the day he died for fear of repercussions from right wing sources.

again the president's men former CIA assassins broke into Democratic Headquarters and other peoples offices and spied on them.

Only one paper was willing to publish the truth in the entire USA. The others were aware of it.

again With the tapes we found out how corrupt the right wing was and still is obviously. Nixon was taking Arab money and paying his criminals huge amounts of money. And this was not the only thing tricky dick was doing. And again we have the right wing hero to right-wing wackos own words even plotting to have a journalist killed by his right wing CIA assassins.

again we have a president publicly telling the Russians vs the arabs to get involved in our election illegally to do exactly the same break into democratic HDQS and get then the information. Which again the information though everything stollen was virtually worthless. Look at the information we are getting now from the trumps, all lying and colluding with russians to pay them back which was done in a month dropping 100s billions in sanction the Obama set against corrupt Russians that is obviously the payout and fine with right wingers.

Also, it appears much of what was leaked in real time was because we have one of the dumbest national security generals in all history. General Kelly should he fired and lose all his pensions for the damage he did as well as given a life sentence. He carried in a hacked phone into 6 months of top secret and Whitehouse meetings that some foreign government was listening into. Basically endangering national security more than anything ever in the history of the USA and causing probably trillions of dollars in damage to national security. Just look at the leaks that were made.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In yet another demonstration of his astonishing ignorance and bias, Matty cites an article by the American Enterprise Institute--well known for brainwashing fools like Matty with "conservative" propaganda--and ignores the facts about Trump self-dealing.
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