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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:46 am    Post subject: Longboard Sails Reply with quote

touched the subject in another post
how is the Severne Raceboard 9.5 ??
have an opportunity to get one
currently use SW Retro 8, HSM SPF 8.5, MS TR-6 8.4 or TR-4 10.0
depending on conditions - the SW is used less in the summer (has a tear)
have written a post about longboard sails a while back
http://joewindsurfer.blogspot.ca/2014/03/longboard-sails_4.html
does not include the Aerotech Dagger 9.5, S2Maui Wicked 9.5 nor the SW Flyer

so ... am wondering about what people feel is their BEST longboard sail and experiences with the Severne Raceboard sail
guess i should stipluate modern sails - yes, older sails with less twist are great with longboards too
as a heavyweight, am mostly interested in the 8-10 meter range
the Ezzy Zephyr does qualify and have heard ravings
not made any more, but believe some are using the Lion

thanks in advance
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coachg



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe,

I'm not going to tell you what sail to get as there are plenty of options out there. However, I will talk about your MS TR sails.

I have MS 10.0 & 9.2 from my formula racing days. They were, and still are, great formula sails for me & formula/slalom sails for bigger guys. But as good as they are, I have never, nor will I ever, use them with my Kona. The TR's are designed for, happy with & work well when loaded up with planing wind. In non-planing wind they are very fickle & hard to work with. In light wind cam rotation becomes an issue, the sails are heavy, if you let out the down haul the front shape gets too big & you risk breaking expensive batten tips. For all the above reasons I only use my TR's in planing winds & if in planing wind why would I use my Kona? The TR's are slippery sails designed for fast, light boards in plaing conditions, not slogging long distances on a long board.

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SeaDawg



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe adding to what coach said. I have a fair number of larger sails to choose from.....I think we sail very similar conditions. The two sails I use the most on my longboards are Ezzy Infinity's 7.5 and 8.5 I also have a Hot Stealth 8.5 non cambered if I'm expecting gusty winds I like the Ezzy's if it's lite and steady well the Hot Steath is just fine (a bit less weight)

If you were racing..... well get the best you can afford pair it up with right mast,boom and get the adjustable out haul/down haul and really get the most out of the sail/board/fin combinations you can rangle together

Personally I don't do the adjustable lines. I sort of find the mid point and just go riding.

Learning all the techniques is a good part of longboarding for sure.
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jingebritsen



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

konas truly come into their stride in planing conditions. if one has a topography that has wind zones and not, kona boards rock
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joethewindsufa



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks John - I am NOT really looking for a board
also have a JP SLW92 which pairs well with the MS TR sails in planing conditions
you guys are singing to the choir and convincing me of what i should have known all along
the TR's are GREAT sails in planing
"if one is not racing , stick to a lighter sail that works"
that seems to be why i mostly use the HSM SPF 8.5
perhaps not an ideal longboard sail - they do come with one camber now
however, that sail is light and forgiving
thanks for all the replies and will stick with what i have
hope some of you are getting on the water
i am in what i call la-la land - wet snow and freezing rain this winter
LOTS of it !!
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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if you experience what adjustable OH and DH had to offer you'd "get it".
We do some fairly long cruising races which involve big differences in wind conditions. Being able to take the twist out while flattening the sail makes a huge difference in windward VMG when its light out. But that combination is pretty miserable downwind or if it starts to get powered up.
Take a yank on the DH and the whole character of the rig changes. There is a reason that raceboard and RS:X guys bother with all the extra bits.

But that doesn't work well on a sail which needs a lot of DH to rotate or tends to break battens. Which is where a raceboard sail comes in.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

use adjustable outhaul/AO wherever possible
never seen an adjustable DH - besides on the web
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS:X ones work great and aren't expensive.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adjustable down haul can lead to sailors to under tensioning. result: broken batten tips with cam sails.

too little d/h also does not allow much in the way of drag free top speeds in any wind. becomes tiring quite quickly.

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