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joethewindsufa
Joined: 10 Oct 2010 Posts: 1190 Location: Montréal
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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if WindSUP users actually feel this is necessary and worth the PITA
then I hope board designers are listening !!!
I, on the other hand, have replaced my gasket on my MEQ2/Mistral Equipe
and no longer put the dagger back in
great for BAFFing just like that !!! |
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jingebritsen
Joined: 21 Aug 2002 Posts: 3371
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rollerrider
Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 100
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:19 am Post subject: |
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SUP boards are not constructed to take windsurfing loads. They are basically just big surf boards. And the hull shape will never plane or sail well. Lots of reasons not to. Sell it and get a real wind sup board. You would have a better chance selling it as is than if it had a dagger board that most people don't want. |
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beaglebuddy
Joined: 10 Feb 2012 Posts: 1120
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Daggerboards are for raceboards with big boxy parallel rails for sinking the leeward rail and cutting upwind.
Or for beginner boards to keep from getting blown downwind while learning. To have one put on a SUP to me is kind of pointless. You could install a fin box and have a center fixed fin but it will probably get busted off the first time you run aground. |
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JPonHudson
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Let me provide a little more context. I am comfortable digging the rail on the SUP but I don't see it super effective in going upwind perhaps because the SUP's rails are round.
The reason I am thinking of getting something with a daggerboard is because the river I want to use this board on is very tricky with tides frequently changing wind and chop, big boat wakes ect. in other words, I need all the advantage I can get especially considering limited number to places to "crash" land and do the walk of shame... After reading the comments, I began to think of finding an old Mistral Prodigy because of its a sharp rail, rugged build and centerboard might be a better choice. What do you guys think of that choice.
BTW,
For less tricky launch sites I used to use Go 171 from which at the end of last season I switched to Gecko 146 which will be my weapon of choice from this point on. |
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grantmac017
Joined: 04 Aug 2016 Posts: 946
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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A WindSUP without waves to play on offers a spectacle just slightly above drying paint.
If you want to go places get a raceboard WITH centerboard. |
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JPonHudson
Joined: 10 Apr 2013 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Would Mistral Prodigy fit the bill? |
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jirvin_4505
Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 52
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:05 am Post subject: Gecko 146 |
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JPonHudson wrote: | ......snip.....
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For less tricky launch sites I used to use Go 171 from which at the end of last season I switched to Gecko 146 which will be my weapon of choice from this point on. |
OTT. What differences have you found upgrading to gecko 146?
cheers Jeff
Ps. The ‘new is old’one design looks like a great sUP with centre board |
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bred2shred
Joined: 02 May 2000 Posts: 989 Location: Jersey Shore
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Wow, a year and a half later and you still haven't made a decision on this one?
Yes, a Prodigy would be an OK board. They were intended as something of a "do it all" type board because they were short (by longboard standards) but longer than a "short board", relatively wide for early planing, and had a centerboard. So yes, they are good lake/river boards for light to medium wind in planing and non-planing conditions.
Keeping your SUP for paddling around on zero wind days and getting the Prodigy for days when you want to sail seems like a better approach than hacking holes in your SUP.
As others have said, SUPs are really best suited for wave sailing on light wind days or paddling around without a sail. For flat water sailing, there are much better boards to choose (traditional long boards, light wind formula/free-formula boards, or a board like the Prodigy).
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jamieinnyc
Joined: 26 Apr 2010 Posts: 108
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Yes, get an Exocet Windsup if you want to do the things it does well, which is a lot, likely. But I have been considering this question not for waves or for x-over but for light wind days - specifically for race sups, which have great glide. Can't find an old D2 board here in the US, and though my old Superlight is good, a 14' race sup would almost certainly be better. And used sups are plentiful (though the 14' ones not so much). Building a plywood & foam centerboard trunk would not be complicated, and installing it would be similar replacing a powerbox, really - just a lot bigger. Lately, though, I've considered skipping the centerboard and installing a deep tuttle box for a foil, making something like the Slingshot Flyer 380. Much simpler build... |
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