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real-human
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how many deferments did trump get to stay out of vietnam?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/fa49f859-00a4-378e-80d0-bb7016206277/ss_navy-graduates-deride.html
Navy graduates deride 'physical coward' Trump ahead of Academy commencement address
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Two graduates of the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., penned an op-ed in The Baltimore Sun questioning President Trump's suitability to deliver the commencement speech to this year's graduating class of midshipmen on Friday.
"It is right and fitting that the president of the United States give a commencement address to a service academy’s graduating class," Daniel Barkhuff and William Burke wrote in Wednesday's edition of the paper. "It is also right and fitting that citizens of the democracy for which these graduates will soon be charged with protecting point out the personal cowardice, narcissism and incompetency of the current president."
Barkhuff and Burke graduated from the Academy in 2001. They now work at Veterans for Responsible Leadership.
They wrote of the sacrifices made by various Naval Academy graduates, such as Sen. John McCain, over the years.
"Contrast this to the personal and professional honor of the sitting president of the United States, who time and again makes small choices guided by self-interest, ego, impulse and immediate self-gratification," they wrote. "He could never do what we ask our U.S. Naval Academy graduates to do. He is a physical coward, a liar and no leader at all." |
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vientomas
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| mat-ty wrote: | | wsurfer wrote: | Wet-ty can't buy a thrill 
Name calling is is last resort, just like The Donald! |
Did you read the article? or do you choose to remain an ignoramus? |
What are you choosing to be? The cite you provided in an opinion piece. More name calling from Mat-ty. At least he is consistent  |
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swchandler
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mat-ty, Mark Penn's opinion in The Hill is nothing more than a twisted view of things without any real honest facts. Lots of questionable opinions coming to false conclusions.
Mueller is running a tight professional investigation with no leaks, and the whole thing is really getting under Donald Trump's skin in a terrible way because he knows he has a lot to hide. From my perspective, Trump's escalating dialog, denials and actions don't appear to reflect the confidence of someone that is truly innocent with nothing to hide.
Mark my words, Mueller's ultimate can opener leading to cracking the case wide open will be Trump's taxes and financial records. It's the key to a myriad of questionable activities with the Russians. With that information, and Trump's increasing efforts to obstruct and end the investigation, we will all see that Trump and those very close around him are rotten to the core. It's just a matter of time before Trump's world begins to unravel in ugly ways. |
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| vientomas wrote: | | mat-ty wrote: | | wsurfer wrote: | Wet-ty can't buy a thrill
Name calling is is last resort, just like The Donald! |
Did you read the article? or do you choose to remain an ignoramus? |
What are you choosing to be? The cite you provided in an opinion piece. More name calling from Mat-ty. At least he is consistent |
It's the handwriting on the wall nitwit, believe what you want.
The American people are growing tired of the hissy fit and the polls are swinging back to red. |
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mat-ty
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| swchandler wrote: | mat-ty, Mark Penn's opinion in The Hill is nothing more than a twisted view of things without any real honest facts. Lots of questionable opinions coming to false conclusions.
Mueller is running a tight professional investigation with no leaks, and the whole thing is really getting under Donald Trump's skin in a terrible way because he knows he has a lot to hide. From my perspective, Trump's escalating dialog, denials and actions don't appear to reflect the confidence of someone that is truly innocent with nothing to hide.
Mark my words, Mueller's ultimate can opener leading to cracking the case wide open will be Trump's taxes and financial records. It's the key to a myriad of questionable activities with the Russians. With that information, and Trump's increasing efforts to obstruct and end the investigation, we will all see that Trump and those very close around him are rotten to the core. It's just a matter of time before Trump's world begins to unravel in ugly ways. |
You're a delusional old fool. Wake up and open your eyes. Mueller will go down in flames and Trump will only be standing taller in the end. The left over played their hand and have only exposed themselves for the scum they are...read the polls knucklehead... |
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mac
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From Jennifer Rubin, a conservative that sees Trump as an authoritarian, not a conservative.
| Quote: | President Trump’s apologists can’t say they weren’t warned. Virtually every character flaw and policy debacle was in plain view during the campaign. Republicans then, as Republicans do now, convinced themselves and their fellow Americans that Trump was a business genius (in fact he serially failed and hid his finances to prevent any objective assessment of his success). These Republicans told us he’d find and use top-notch experts (not!), had great negotiating skills (aside from bluff and bluster, he has no finesse in presidential-level consensus-building on either the domestic or foreign policy side).
Trump really did mean all the horrible things he said about immigrants and really does not have a clue how international trade works. His self-absorption and insecurity do pose a danger to the United States when he engages with foreign leaders who know they can play him through flattery.
Yes he does have a problem with women — a dozen or more claimed improper sexual conduct and one consensual sexual partner was hushed up with a $130,000 payment. His denials about having nothing to do with Russia have proven misleading at best, if not outright false. (CNBC has compiled a helpful video examining Trump’s web of Russia connections.)
He was never prepared to give up ownership of his businesses, and therefore perpetuates blatant conflicts of interest, including receipts of foreign emoluments, quite possibly in violation of the Constitution.
His attacks on the press during the campaign did in fact reflect his contempt for the First Amendment. Fortunately a federal court In New York this week slapped down his attempt to block followers on Twitter as impermissible content discrimination. It should have surprised no one that his Environmental Protection Agency barred reporters from a national meeting on water contamination, including one by force. A president who dubs the press the enemy, wants to “pull the license” of a critical news network and hides from solo press conferences and legitimate news interviewers plainly is not prepared to defend constitutional rights of free speech and press.
His attempt during the campaign to smear a federal court judge of Hispanic descent was not a one-off proposition. He routinely attacks the legitimacy of the courts.
His authoritarian mindset is revealed over and over again. We see his anti-democratic inclinations in attacks on a single employer, Amazon, as retribution against The Post, which is owned by Amazon’s founder, Jeffrey P. Bezos; and in his declaration that maybe football players who wish to exercise their First Amendment rights during the national anthem should leave the country. His contempt for the rule of law is evident in his baseless smears against law enforcement, in his meddling in specific enforcement actions and investigations (most prominently an investigation of him), in his pardoning of Joe Arpaio convicted of criminal contempt of court and in his toleration of corruption in multiple Cabinet departments. He admires strongmen (e.g. Russian President Vladimir Putin, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan) and shows indifference toward human rights.
His daily assault on the truth and sowing of racial animosity — which, again, were on full view in the campaign — have intensified.
You get the picture. Under stress and on the receiving end of constant criticism, he’s become more Trumpian by the day — more impulsive, cruel, erratic and racist. He arguably has less competent help, less credibility and less awareness of the implications of his decisions than he did a year ago. His presidency is getting worse — just as many predicted. An unfit person hobbled by serious character flaws will melt down in the most stressful job in the world.
The spectacle of a president suffering a string of foreign policy embarrassments (on China, North Korea, Iran) and creating more preposterous attacks on law enforcement is not surprising, but it is deeply worrisome. Moreover, if past is prologue, he’ll get worse with time. |
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mat-ty
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| mac wrote: | From Jennifer Rubin, a conservative that sees Trump as an authoritarian, not a conservative.
| Quote: | President Trump’s apologists can’t say they weren’t warned. Virtually every character flaw and policy debacle was in plain view during the campaign. Republicans then, as Republicans do now, convinced themselves and their fellow Americans that Trump was a business genius (in fact he serially failed and hid his finances to prevent any objective assessment of his success). These Republicans told us he’d find and use top-notch experts (not!), had great negotiating skills (aside from bluff and bluster, he has no finesse in presidential-level consensus-building on either the domestic or foreign policy side).
Trump really did mean all the horrible things he said about immigrants and really does not have a clue how international trade works. His self-absorption and insecurity do pose a danger to the United States when he engages with foreign leaders who know they can play him through flattery.
Yes he does have a problem with women — a dozen or more claimed improper sexual conduct and one consensual sexual partner was hushed up with a $130,000 payment. His denials about having nothing to do with Russia have proven misleading at best, if not outright false. (CNBC has compiled a helpful video examining Trump’s web of Russia connections.)
He was never prepared to give up ownership of his businesses, and therefore perpetuates blatant conflicts of interest, including receipts of foreign emoluments, quite possibly in violation of the Constitution.
His attacks on the press during the campaign did in fact reflect his contempt for the First Amendment. Fortunately a federal court In New York this week slapped down his attempt to block followers on Twitter as impermissible content discrimination. It should have surprised no one that his Environmental Protection Agency barred reporters from a national meeting on water contamination, including one by force. A president who dubs the press the enemy, wants to “pull the license” of a critical news network and hides from solo press conferences and legitimate news interviewers plainly is not prepared to defend constitutional rights of free speech and press.
His attempt during the campaign to smear a federal court judge of Hispanic descent was not a one-off proposition. He routinely attacks the legitimacy of the courts.
His authoritarian mindset is revealed over and over again. We see his anti-democratic inclinations in attacks on a single employer, Amazon, as retribution against The Post, which is owned by Amazon’s founder, Jeffrey P. Bezos; and in his declaration that maybe football players who wish to exercise their First Amendment rights during the national anthem should leave the country. His contempt for the rule of law is evident in his baseless smears against law enforcement, in his meddling in specific enforcement actions and investigations (most prominently an investigation of him), in his pardoning of Joe Arpaio convicted of criminal contempt of court and in his toleration of corruption in multiple Cabinet departments. He admires strongmen (e.g. Russian President Vladimir Putin, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan) and shows indifference toward human rights.
His daily assault on the truth and sowing of racial animosity — which, again, were on full view in the campaign — have intensified.
You get the picture. Under stress and on the receiving end of constant criticism, he’s become more Trumpian by the day — more impulsive, cruel, erratic and racist. He arguably has less competent help, less credibility and less awareness of the implications of his decisions than he did a year ago. His presidency is getting worse — just as many predicted. An unfit person hobbled by serious character flaws will melt down in the most stressful job in the world.
The spectacle of a president suffering a string of foreign policy embarrassments (on China, North Korea, Iran) and creating more preposterous attacks on law enforcement is not surprising, but it is deeply worrisome. Moreover, if past is prologue, he’ll get worse with time. |
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Jennifer is an un-hinged nitwit. I have listened to her many times, she is not a conservatives and a rabid never Trumper. She has been barking the same bullshit for 15 months with zero results. |
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swchandler
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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"Wake up and open your eyes."
mat-ty, believe me, I can see what's going on, but I have to question whether you do. Going all in with Donald Trump isn't in the cards for me. The guy is unfit for the presidency, and over time we will all learn why.
No matter, believe what you want. Yet, when it is all said and done, I'm thinking that you will be more than disappointed. |
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| swchandler wrote: | "Wake up and open your eyes."
mat-ty, believe me, I can see what's going on, but I have to question whether you do.
No matter, believe what you want. Yet, when it is all said and done, I'm thinking that you will be more than disappointed. |
SW you NEVER acknowledge ANYTHING, you live in a bubble dude surrounded by airheads like yourself. I can't think of any other way you could be so misinformed. |
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swchandler
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You know mat-ty, believe it or not, I'm not alone.
You have to remember that Donald Trump lost the popular vote, and that was against the "worst of all candidates", Hillary Clinton. And, I don't see Trump winning into the future, especially given his nature.
Just keep remembering all those folks that see things more like me. |
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