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rtz



Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Location: Oklahoma City

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On several of the Hot Sails Maui videos they recommend the use of a crank to get more accurate 1cm adjustments to really dial it in more easily.
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techno900



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 73 years old and have sails from 4.0-11.0. I down haul my 6.6, 7.6, 8.4, 9.2 and 11.0 RACE sails by hand with a small 3" metal cleat/tool and can get them exactly right. I had a crank, but it was a waste of time and sold it.
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ramps



Joined: 07 May 2000
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the many benefits of skinny masts is how much easier they make downhauling. With large diameter masts I could work up a sweat, or worse.
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theconverted



Joined: 25 Jun 2015
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Location: Boston Area

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright guys, talked to a hand surgeon today. He says I got the nerve, which makes sense as I cant feel a damn thing on that side of the finger. Surgery to fix the nerve and double check the tendons on Friday.

Moving pretty good overall, just no feeling which means I can barely tell I cut it.
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rtz



Joined: 31 Oct 2010
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Location: Oklahoma City

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's bad. Are we talking about those plastic cleats they sell at Walmart or something else?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Attwood-6-1-2-Nylon-Cleat/16350977
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joethewindsufa



Joined: 10 Oct 2010
Posts: 1190
Location: Montréal

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes a photo of the culprit would be good ...

perhaps the answer is the NorthSails PowerXT extension(s)
SDM or RDM ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EQDuiSeCzs

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theconverted



Joined: 25 Jun 2015
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Location: Boston Area

PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RTZ something similar to this but in plastic. cracked right in the middle and gut pulled between my fingers. Sucks, but i'll heal.

https://www.cleats.co.uk/cl261-power-grip-1.html
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dsgrntlxmply



Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Posts: 255

PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the Clamcleat CL262 (the one with longer arms than CL261). Less fiddly than the Chinook crank. My arm strength is decreasing with age, but the cleat still works well for me.

Thank you to the original poster for the warning on plastic cleats. I had one that I gave to someone at my site, but will convey the warning. The forces are high, the engineering is probably not rigorous over extended service life, and the consequences of failure can be serious.
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first thing I toss into my rigging spot when I arrive and the last thing I pick up when I leave that evening or a week later is my time-worn Clamcleat line tug. Its five-foot lanyard glows in the dark and reflects light so I can find it well after dark, and the knot in it tells me exactly how high to attach my boom. If I can't over-DH a sail with it, it's time to hit the gym. And just as in the gym or when uphauling, we should DH with our leg, not our back, muscles, or add some bicep and traps action just for variety. It should feel good, like any proper gym lift, not painful. The guys I see hurting their backs do it hunched over, instead of maintaining a normal (slightly concave) lower back posture.
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