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mat-ty



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
mat-ty, I can tell you're pretty unsettled by my comments. You're definitely displaying your ugly flags in full view.

Yet, what you don't seem to appreciate is that there are folks in American like me that don't like what's happening. Let's see how things play out in the November elections.


SW I have never enjoyed anything more than watching nitwits like you lose your minds, I'm having a blast!!!!
I would'nt bet the ranch on November old fool. Trump is doing just fine dispite the constant screaming for the left.


Biggest problem for Dems, they have no message, they have horrendous leadership, and their far left message only flies with tree huggers and parasites.
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swchandler



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty, what's with the goofy talking points?

I have to laugh at your mindset, because there is no depth to it. You paint folks you don't like with the same brush, and then rudely blow them off. That doesn't float with thoughtful folks.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
NW’s on team Russia too.


Actually, Mac. I am convinced that both Matty and NW consider politics something like a team sport. That they are fans no matter what. The sad thing is that they are more interested in winning this sporting event more than considering the state of this country.

This isn't a game. This country is a collection of diverse people and ideologies. The only way we move forward is to reach compromises that provide growth in this environment. When one side wins, we all lose.

It's really sad when what makes America strong cannot be recognized by such a large portion of our population.

I blame our schools for not forcing students to learn some math and logic.
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nw30



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
NW’s on team Russia too.

Bunker logic.

CBH, I blame schools for not properly teaching American history, and the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism. It can be the only reason behind the recent popularity of socialism, they don't get it, free this, free that, there is no such thing as free! But you're right about math, there is no math in socialism.
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coboardhead



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
NW’s on team Russia too.

Bunker logic.

CBH, I blame schools for not properly teaching American history, and the difference between capitalism, socialism, and communism. It can be the only reason behind the recent popularity of socialism, they don't get it, free this, free that, there is no such thing as free! But you're right about math, there is no math in socialism.


Interesting read. "The Naked Calitalist" read back to back with "the Naked Communist"

Unbridled Capitalism has its share of issues as we are seeing. A power and economic system that pretends to provide a environment for growth and prosperity for all, yet systematically limits it, is not true Capitalism.

The GOP used to stand for freedom and hard work. It no longer does. It now is a party intent on exclusion, suppression and elitist wealth building.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we see the fake news and propaganda put forth by the right on this forum by the right wingers.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-director-wray-says-russia-continues-sow-discord-000426884--politics.html

FBI Director Wray says Russia continues to sow discord in US

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ASPEN, Colo. (AP) — FBI Director Christopher Wray said Wednesday that Russia continues to use fake news, propaganda and covert operations to "spin up" Americans on both sides of hot-button issues to sow discord in the United States.

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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW makes rash claims of socialism that attributes to people without proof or reasoning. Not unusual in the tin foil hat brigade. CB's point is spot on. Without government intervention, capitalists run rough shod over public health in many ways. But most people who work in government, or have to deal with the DMV, realize it doesn't make sense to have the government do anything that the market will do better. But name calling, not logic or critical thinking, is the name of their game. (And they feel so victimized when anyone responds in kind.)
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gee.... what a co-incidence, shortly after the russians hacked the hillary analytics (right after Donald ordered the attack) the trump campaign changed their entire ads and marketing, cancelling ads in other areas, gee how did they determine where to go after the dems.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-camp-changed-strategy-after-russians-stole-dnc-analytics-1282344003844?playlist=associated


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Trump camp changed strategy after Russians stole DNC analytics
Rachel Maddow looks at the timing between the theft by Russian military intelligence of DNC analytics data in September 2016, as described in the recent indictment brought by Robert Mueller, and an abrupt change in campaign strategy by the Donald Trump campaign in early October.




https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/candidate-whose-data-was-hacked-in-2016-talks-defending-democracy-1282346563632?playlist=associated

Candidate whose data was hacked in 2016 talks defending democracy
Former Rep. Brad Ashford, whose data was stolen in the hack of the DCCC by Russia military intelligence, talks with Rachel Maddow about how details of the hack were addressed by the Democratic Party, what it meant to his campaign, and what it means to American

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nw30



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
NW makes rash claims of socialism that attributes to people without proof or reasoning. Not unusual in the tin foil hat brigade. CB's point is spot on. Without government intervention, capitalists run rough shod over public health in many ways. But most people who work in government, or have to deal with the DMV, realize it doesn't make sense to have the government do anything that the market will do better. But name calling, not logic or critical thinking, is the name of their game. (And they feel so victimized when anyone responds in kind.)

I understand that we have some socialism in this country, but we don't have to pile on with even more and more, it leads to what this country was never designed to be.
So now we have Bernie Sanders and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez touring the country campaigning for various socialists candidates, the far left is on the march. It is suicide for your party, so party on at your own peril, and watch your party get torn in half.
Did you notice the vote yesterday about supporting ICE? About half of the dems voted 'present', which is really no different than voting 'NO, we don't support ICE'.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW again plays Dan Hicks, "I Scare Myself". It's all talking points and name calling. Fact free, as usual.

There is an interesting article about Ocasio-Cortez by David Remnick in the July 23 New Yorker. To be sure, NW won't pay attention to anything to the left of Fox news. Nor will he give sources for his bullshit cartoons. She has a pretty inspiring story, and her brand of Democratic Socialism. "Her agrnda is in line with the Sanders agenda: single-payer universal health care, equal rights for women and sexual minorities, a fiftenn-dollar minimum wage, guaranteed employment. "No person should be too poor to live" is her credo."

Compared to selling out NATO and the US to make money in Russia, pussy grabbing, philanderers, and 6 lies a day, it sounds pretty refreshing.
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