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swchandler
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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mat-ty, I have to ask, why does Bill Clinton's lie about having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky upset you and so many Republicans even to this day? |
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mat-ty
Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 7850
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | mat-ty, I have to ask, why does Bill Clinton's lie about having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky upset you and so many Republicans even to this day? |
Having sex in the oval office with a wide eyed intern was disgraceful...lying was a mistake.......
I really didn't lose much sleep over the whole thing to be honest..
Bill was a decent president and actually made some sense...Sadly dems have decided to go far left, play the race card, and flood the country with a new voter base...That's why Trump won, it wasn't Russia, it was the new direction the left want to take this country.. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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If the dems had the same Russian paranoia back then as they show today, they may have acted differently about Clinton having "sexual relations" with an intern in the White House. Instead of instantly kicking Monica to the curb, because she was the guilty one, Hillary said so, they may have wanted to know if she had any Russian ties. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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nw30 wrote: | If the dems had the same Russian paranoia back then as they show today, they may have acted differently about Clinton having "sexual relations" with an intern in the White House. Instead of instantly kicking Monica to the curb, because she was the guilty one, Hillary said so, they may have wanted to know if she had any Russian ties. |
They destroyed Monica's life.....shameful behavior that would not fly today, even for a Dem. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Best one yet! |
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swchandler
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Come on guys, let's be honest, wasn't it Linda Tripp that revealed and sacrificed Monica Lewinsky? She couldn't have given a damn about Lewinsky's life and well being. Tripp was one ugly chick that the Republicans conveniently tapped for their twisted show. |
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mat-ty
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:38 am Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Come on guys, let's be honest, wasn't it Linda Tripp that revealed and sacrificed Monica Lewinsky? She couldn't have given a damn about Lewinsky's life and well being. Tripp was one ugly chick that the Republicans conveniently tapped for their twisted show. |
Pretty sure Bill was the ring master, but if it makes you feel better to blame the shitshow on others go for it... |
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swchandler
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 am Post subject: |
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mat-ty, you can't be that foolish and naive.
I'm confident that Bill Clinton wasn't responsible for breaking the news and spreading the ugly details of his infidelities. What I said about Linda Tripp is absolutely true and without question. |
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MalibuGuru
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:28 am Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | mat-ty, you can't be that foolish and naive.
I'm confident that Bill Clinton wasn't responsible for breaking the news and spreading the ugly details of his infidelities. What I said about Linda Tripp is absolutely true and without question. |
Tripp and Lewinsky were both in mortal fear for their lives. You may want to look at the list of people killed by the Clintons.
How many people do you know who have died mysteriously or of a bizarre suicide, or have been beaten to death or murdered in a hail of bullets, how about someone who committed suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head?
For most of us the answer is none, but if you are Bill and Hillary Clinton, the answer to that question is at least 56 – and possibly more.
1 – James McDougal – Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 – Vince Foster – Former white House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 – C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992… Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor.”
7- Ed Willey – Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fundraising events.
8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
23 – Barry Seal – Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 – Johnny Lawhorn Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27 – Kevin Ives and Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
29 – Keith McMaskle – Died stabbed 113 times, November 1988
30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to “natural causes.”
34 – Jordan Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 – Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 – Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 – Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 – Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 – Major General William Robertson 41 – Col. William Densberger 42 – Col. Robert Kelly 43 – Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 – Steve Willis 45 – Robert Williams 46 – Conway LeBleu 47 – Todd McKeehan
48 -World-renowned “space economist” Molly Macauly was brutally murdered in Baltimore park.
49-John Ashe- The former President of the UN General Assembly was awaiting trial on bribery charges when he turned up dead in June, apparently having crushed his own windpipe while lifting weights in his home…
50-Victor Thorn-Prominent CLINTON Critic VICTOR THORN Found Dead Of Apparent Suicide On His Birthday
51-Seth Rich-Still No Clues in Murder of DNC’s Seth Rich, As Conspiracy Theories Thicken
52- Joe Montano-Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47
53-Shawn Lucas-Death of DNC Lawsuit Processor Shawn Lucas Adds to Seth Rich Conspiracy Theories
54-Seth Rich-Family’s private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death
55-Klaus Eberwein Found Dead Before Testifying Against Clinton Foundation in HAITI COVERUP
56-Man who sought Clinton’s emails from Russian hackers committed suicide
The extent of Mostyn’s ties to the Clintons is not fully known but it seems that he and his wife had been major players in their inner circle for years. The timing of his death is especially concerning as Hillary Clinton has once again found herself at the center of scrutiny for alleged dirty dealings during her time as Secretary of State. |
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swchandler
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Bard, again you plagiarize someone else's work without giving appropriate credit, and you don't seem to care at all. I don't get it. |
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