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MalibuGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick search of presidential donors among people indicted today for allegedly bribing their kids into college:

Hillary Clinton: 6
Mitt Romney: 6
Barack Obama: 5
Marco Rubio: 1
Donald Trump: 0
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Quick search of presidential donors among people indicted today for allegedly bribing their kids into college:

Hillary Clinton: 6
Mitt Romney: 6
Barack Obama: 5
Marco Rubio: 1
Donald Trump: 0


False equivalency. For one factoid--over 81,000 people contributed more than $200 to Obama's campaign. Five cheated for their children? Can you figure out what that percentage is? Do you think Obama should have known?

Turning to Trump's campaign, At least 3 of his key campaign officials have been convicted or pled guilty to crimes. There is no doubt in my mind both that he knew, and he picked them for their dishonesty. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/21/us/mueller-trump-charges.html

Not surprising that no Trump supporters were involved in bribery to try to get their kids into college--even with a bribe they couldn't have made it.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/political-donors-college-admissions-scandal_n_5c883861e4b0fbd7661ed2fb

The contributions included:

At least $135,525 to the Democratic National Committee

At least $131,800 to committees benefiting or controlled by then-presidential candidate and current U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah)

At least $73,600 to the Republican National Committee

At least $30,000 to committees benefiting Gavin Newsom

At least $25,000 to the Kamala Harris Senate Committee and the committee for her California attorney general candidacy

At least $16,900 to committees benefiting or controlled by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.)

$8,350 to the National Republican Campaign Committee

$8,350 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee

The indicted contributors included:

Agustin Huneeus, vintner

$30,000 in contributions to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s campaign committees. (Disclosure: This reporter worked for Newsom in several capacities over a six-year period.)

Robert Flaxman, CEO of Crown Realty & Development

Total federal contributions: $143,065.80

$5,400 to Rep. Ro Khanna’s congressional campaign committee in 2015

$50,000 to Romney Victory Fund in 2012

$2,300 to Romney presidential campaign in 2007

$2,700 to Chris Van Hollen’s Senate account (all contributions were disbursed through a joint committee on Sept. 30, 2016)

$33,400 to the Democratic National Committee

$8,350 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee

$10,000 to the California Republican Party Federal Account

$35,800 to the Republican National Committee

$8,350 to the National Republican Congressional Committee

Gordon Caplan, attorney

Caplan has contributed $86,750 to federal candidates and committees.

$7,000 to the Republican National Committee

$12,000 to Romney 2012 committees

$22,300 to the Democratic National Committee in 2016

$2,600 to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)

$1,000 to Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand

$1,250 to Kyrsten Sinema’s Senate campaign

$15,200 to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

Jane Buckingham, marketing consultant

Buckingham has donated $71,600 to federal candidates and committees.

A total of $14,700 to Kirsten Gillibrand’s Senate campaign

$1,250 to Gillibrand’s political action committee

$5,700 to committees controlled by Sen. Kamala Harris

$30,800 to the DNC through the Obama Victory Fund in 2012

$7,350 to Harris’ California attorney general campaign committees

Robert Zangrillo, CEO, Dragon Global

$50,000 to Romney Victory Fund in 2012

$30,800 to the Republican National Committee 2012 (distributed through the Romney Victory Fund)

Abdelaziz Gamal, former casino executive

$40,196 in total contributions to federal candidates and committees

$33,096 in contributions to the MGM Resorts International PAC

Douglas Hodge, former Pimco CEO

$29,000 in total contributions to federal campaign funds

$5,000 to the Investment Company Institute PAC

$10,000 to Securities Association PAC

Manuel Henriquez, chairman and CEO of Hercules Technology Growth Capital

$19,530 in total federal contributions

$16,450 to the Democratic National Committee

Mossimo Giannulli, fashion designer, and Lori Loughlin, actress

$12,800 in total contributions to federal candidates and committees

$2,700 to the Marco Rubio senate campaign (via Mossimo Giannulli)

$5,000 to Romney Victory in 2012 (via Mossimo Giannulli)

Felicity Huffman, actress

$10,719.17 in total federal contributions

$1,537.50 of which was to the Kamala Harris Senate campaign committee

Bruce Isackson, president of WP Investments, and Davina Isackson

$2,500 to the Romney presidential campaign (via Bruce Isackson)

$3,500 to the Congressional Leadership Fund, a Republican super PAC, in 2017 (via Bruce Isackson)

Michelle Janavs, former executive of a food manufacturer

$5,000 to the Romney Victory Fund in 2012

Marci Palatella, owner of Preservation Distillery

$3,200 to Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.)

John B. Wilson, president and CEO of Hyannis Port Capital

$1,000 to Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.)

$500 to the NRCC in August 2018

As I've said before...No shortage of stupidity in either Party. Exemplified by the conservatives here who think Republicans can do no wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to get Kushner into college was it over 2.5 million donations? Only discovered when his tax fraud case was investigated. Normally a university publicizes its notice of a donation, but they did not in Kushner's case. No word on what trumps father paid to get the molester donald into any school, and no word on trumps donations to get his idiot kids into schools.

as noted trump had cohen threaten every school he was ever in that they can not release any of his information because of how poorly he did in everything, yet he did the big lie saying he graduated number 1. But he did not know his university published the names of the top 20 back when they graduated and his name was not in it. hahahaha BIG LIE.... ie republican... big lie and the rupugnants love it. That is a repugnant 10 commandment... Love thy liar.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the dems are frustrated that they are having problems winning elections by following the rules, so they want to change them, more chronic shortsightedness striking again.

>Get rid of the electoral college, thus allowing the liberal rich east and west coasts dictating what rules flyover country have to follow.
>Increase the size of the supreme court, not realizing that it's something that could go on forever, an ever increasing of size, as the various administrations take over.
>And my favorite, lowering the voting age to 16, as Pelosi says, "so we can capture them".

From Mike Huckabee: "Beto's excuse for writing sick stories about killing children: he was just a dumb 16-year-old who didn't know any better. But hey, let's lower the voting age to 16!"
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
So the dems are frustrated that they are having problems winning elections by following the rules, so they want to change them, more chronic shortsightedness striking again.

>Get rid of the electoral college, thus allowing the liberal rich east and west coasts dictating what rules flyover country have to follow.
>Increase the size of the supreme court, not realizing that it's something that could go on forever, an ever increasing of size, as the various administrations take over.
>And my favorite, lowering the voting age to 16, as Pelosi says, "so we can capture them".

From Mike Huckabee: "Beto's excuse for writing sick stories about killing children: he was just a dumb 16-year-old who didn't know any better. But hey, let's lower the voting age to 16!"


so the right wing changed the rules and made gerrymandering and voter suppression and massive cheating a standard which allowed them to win elections unchecked even with less votes.

Their massive funders which outnumber dems about 9 to 1 have a money advantage too, due to citizens united even foreign governments are getting their Manchurian candidates to win with hundreds of millions of dollars or help. Their funders own the media, not one partisan liberal owns mass media. Fux can have rapists and such and pay them 10s of millions for their raping of america and for which it no longer stands. The right wing had tyranny for several years with a rapist non-elected cheating so call ill-legitimate president.

Less than 4 months of non-tyrany and the right wing and doing the white victim game that their low-level thinking base love.

so time to eliminate the electoral college and allow everyone's vote to count, step one.

and yep right wingers cheated on supreme court so time to add supreme court justices to the tally for this inequity. which is legal. So every time dems control we have a lopsided number of supreme court justices, when repugnats win they do the same to all americans are on the supreme court with lifetime appointments.

As we see in the world the right wing racists think they can steal elections... Well, we have ways to make things fair too. appoint 100 bernie sanders and such to the supreme court as payback for the theft of democracy.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
So the dems are frustrated that they are having problems winning elections by following the rules, so they want to change them, more chronic shortsightedness striking again.

>Get rid of the electoral college, thus allowing the liberal rich east and west coasts dictating what rules flyover country have to follow.
>Increase the size of the supreme court, not realizing that it's something that could go on forever, an ever increasing of size, as the various administrations take over.
>And my favorite, lowering the voting age to 16, as Pelosi says, "so we can capture them".

From Mike Huckabee: "Beto's excuse for writing sick stories about killing children: he was just a dumb 16-year-old who didn't know any better. But hey, let's lower the voting age to 16!"


NW...last I checked the Dems did quite fine in November winning a lot of elections. And the Dems have won the popular vote(humans voting) every year except 2004, going back to 1988.
In regards to the electoral college, how do the big tax payers in places like CA, and NY feel about the knuckleheads, and BUD tankers in flyover land dictating rules to the growth engines....???

Here's a simple solution. Allocate electoral college votes on a population basis, not a gerrymandered district basis...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boggsman1 wrote:
nw30 wrote:
So the dems are frustrated that they are having problems winning elections by following the rules, so they want to change them, more chronic shortsightedness striking again.

>Get rid of the electoral college, thus allowing the liberal rich east and west coasts dictating what rules flyover country have to follow.
>Increase the size of the supreme court, not realizing that it's something that could go on forever, an ever increasing of size, as the various administrations take over.
>And my favorite, lowering the voting age to 16, as Pelosi says, "so we can capture them".

From Mike Huckabee: "Beto's excuse for writing sick stories about killing children: he was just a dumb 16-year-old who didn't know any better. But hey, let's lower the voting age to 16!"


NW...last I checked the Dems did quite fine in November winning a lot of elections. And the Dems have won the popular vote(humans voting) every year except 2004, going back to 1988.
In regards to the electoral college, how do the big tax payers in places like CA, and NY feel about the knuckleheads, and BUD tankers in flyover land dictating rules to the growth engines....???

Here's a simple solution. Allocate electoral college votes on a population basis, not a gerrymandered district basis...


Actually the best solution would be for dems to grow the fuck up and accept election results...

You do realize that if the race was based on a popular vote the campaigns would change their strategies, appearances, advertising etc. Which would have netted completely different results..

By the way...who's gonna feed all those assholes on the coast if you starve those bud sucking deplorables you have so little respect for???????


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mat-ty, you seem to forget that California can grow it all. No need for flyover states really. Also, you have to remember in an era of global trade, particularly when it comes to seasonal fruits and vegetables, there's always Mexico and South America.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swchandler wrote:
mat-ty, you seem to forget that California can grow it all. No need for flyover states really. Also, you have to remember in an era of global trade, particularly when it comes to seasonal fruits and vegetables, there's always Mexico and South America.



So screw the heartland???? thats great!!!!
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