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jirvin_4505
Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 52
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:41 pm Post subject: Learning to gybe before the big 7.0 - only 8 years left!! |
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I like the looping thread ... this will be my gybing thread
I have been getting coaching
I’ve got about 8years left.., any chance I may make progress before end of season .,, about 4 weeks left before winter sailing begins
more coaching from Lara at RQYS
Sometimes I feel like the slow learner kid in class I need all the support I can get.
https://youtu.be/xz6MjvOnbTA
Cheers Jeff
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windward1
Joined: 18 Jun 2000 Posts: 1400
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Gybing is way overrated. Just go back and forth and enjoy the ride.
Or....if still wanting to learn and all of those 12 step and other multi-step methods seem to be just too much, try Mike Flick's "Throw-Throw- Grab & Go" method. Can be found somewhere in these threads. You need to be trying it in lots of wind at first in my opinion. YMMV.
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westender
Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1288 Location: Portland / Gorge
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Master the non planing jibe first. Get the board turned around and you will come out clew first. Don't fall in. I know lots of good sailors and they would never be able to plane a jibe with a kit like that through those conditions. Don't feel bad. |
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kevinkan
Joined: 07 Jun 2001 Posts: 1662 Location: San Francisco
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jirvin_4505
Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 52
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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westender wrote: | Master the non planing jibe first. Get the board turned around and you will come out clew first. Don't fall in. I know lots of good sailors and they would never be able to plane a jibe with a kit like that through those conditions. Don't feel bad. |
Yep been concentrating on the lightwind gybes for a while. Not coping well with the transition to short board planing gybes
Some recent practice.... crap footwork!!
https://youtu.be/P6Ww9siK2mA
https://youtu.be/BAlQ_yGZ0HI
Cheers Jeff |
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justall
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 442
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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I have faith in you!
Hey, if you can swing it, maybe spend a week in Bonaire. Practicing this in the bay’s vast amount of thigh-deep water saves enormous amounts of energy. Blow a jibe ... just stand up, step on your board, and try it again. Practicing in water over your head is way more tiring, so takes much more time, in my opinion. |
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jirvin_4505
Joined: 07 Jul 2015 Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:14 am Post subject: |
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justall wrote: | I have faith in you!
Hey, if you can swing it, maybe spend a week in Bonaire. Practicing this in the bay’s vast amount of thigh-deep water saves enormous amounts of energy. Blow a jibe ... just stand up, step on your board, and try it again. Practicing in water over your head is way more tiring, so takes much more time, in my opinion. |
Thanks justall
I’m in sunny Qld Australia. Keep saying to the wife we need a holiday
I do have a few flatwater shallow locations that I go to practice between coaching sessions
Making a big effort to have some improvements this season.
Lots of gym and weight loss during the winter break
Focus on lifting my pbs. Did a couple of 44km days recently plus improved my 1 hours and nautical mile speeds
The lack of gybes has me doing 1/2 as much sailing as my mates. The do 70 plus kms in the same session. I get a lot more water start practice
So for past 3 weeks it’s been 2 lesson sessions a week and committed practice inbetween (lightwind and planing wind) - back at work has slowed me down a little.
Thanks for the faith... reckon I’m going to make it happen
Cheers Jeff |
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PeconicPuffin
Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Posts: 1830
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:44 am Post subject: Re: Learning to gybe before the big 7.0 |
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You're getting good coaching. Lara is primarily focused on getting you sailing faster and smoother, which will make it much easier for you to have a good jibe entry. Smooth speed is the first requirement for planing jibes. Getting your body in more of a "7" shape, with straight or nearly straight arms and legs, body hiked out over the water, sail power through the harness not your arms. Fly across the water.
I strongly suggest you get ahold of Dasher's "12 Step Jibe" video, either on DVD or you can find bits of it online. Focus on how he's sailing before his set up phase, and his set up phase, and his entry. Don't worry about the foot transition and sail flip so much at this point. Your nonplaning jibe work (smart that you're doing it!) will help you build those fundamentals.
Work on both the nonplaning and planing jibes...let the wind determine which you practice. If it's blowing five knots, that's enough to work on pivot jibes.
_________________ Michael
http://www.peconicpuffin.com |
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U2U2U2
Joined: 06 Jul 2001 Posts: 5467 Location: Shipsterns Bluff, Tasmania. Colorado
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:44 am Post subject: |
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kevinkan wrote: | awesome thread title! |
Yea, I like it also, learning to jibe while your still 6 YO or under. _________________ K4 fins
4Boards....May the fours be with you
http://www.k4fins.com/fins.html
http://4boards.co.uk/ |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20946
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:55 am Post subject: |
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It's not clear (to me) whether you hit 70 in 8 years or are about 70 now, but either way ... don't sell your longevity short. At 75 I'm still learning something every windy day, and except for stage 4 cancer and its dozen heavy drugs I'd still be far outlasting most kids 1/2 to 1/3 my age, according to their claimed and observed endurance.
A solid, reliable waterstart is indispensable, whereas solid planing jibing skills add primarily TOW and maybe more comfortable winter sailing.
And thanks for the plug, windward, but there's neither an "L" nor a "U" in Fick.
Mike \m/ |
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