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As I said, mueller is a life long republican and carried their water as a good old boy.
He could have charged many more for campaign crimes.
https://news.yahoo.com/mueller-missed-crime-trump-campaign-083025570.html
Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump’s Campaign Coordinated With Russia
| Quote: | Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump’s Campaign Coordinated With Russia
The Daily Beast The Daily Beast•July 10, 2019962 Comments
Ever since the release of the Mueller Report, countless commentators have implored everyone to just #ReadtheReport. The problem is not who is reading it—the problem is the report itself, and its many errors.
Robert Mueller made a significant legal error and, based on the facts he found, he should have identified Trump campaign felonies. Mueller’s errors meant that, first, he failed to conclude that the Trump campaign criminally coordinated with Russia; second, he failed to indict campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates for felony campaign coordination (see in a concise timeline below); third, the 10 acts of felony obstruction in Volume II fell flat among the general public because it lacked compelling context of these underlying crimes between the campaign and Russia. On top of these errors, the former special counsel said he deliberately wrote the report to be unclear because it would be unfair to make clear criminal accusations against a president.
The bottom line is that the Mueller Report is a failure not because of Congress or because of public apathy, but because it failed to get the law, the facts, or even the basics of writing right. When Mueller testifies before Congress on July 17, he should be pressed on all of this.
The DOJ’s initial appointment explicitly tasked Mueller with investigating campaign “coordination,” and it is not too much to ask that he get the law of “coordination” right. The report stated that “‘coordination’ does not have a settled definition in federal criminal law. We understood coordination to require an agreement—tacit or express.”
However, Congress purposely sought to prevent such narrow interpretations: in 2002, it passed a statute directing that campaign finance regulations “shall not require agreement or formal collaboration to establish coordination.” The Federal Election Commission established the regulations for the implementation of the statute: “Coordinated means made in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate,” with no need to show any kind of agreement.
Outside spending for coordinated communications is an in-kind contribution, and foreign contributions are completely prohibited. And Congress made the criminal penalties unmistakably clear: “Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any provision of this Act” commits a crime. The Supreme Court upheld these limits in McConnell v. FEC with crucial observations about the functional role of suggestions, rather than agreements: “[E]xpenditures made after a wink or nod often will be as useful to the candidate as cash.” This timeline is full of suggestions far more explicit than winks and nods.
If Trump Weren’t President, He Would Already Be Charged
As the Supreme Court acknowledged, this is not about bribery and quid pro quo; it’s about outsourcing a consistent campaign messaging and expenses to known allies. It seems Mueller did not hire any legal experts with experience in campaign finance regulation. Given that this investigation was about campaign crimes, this appears to a revealing oversight with serious consequences.
In addition to ignoring these rules, Mueller also made a major organizational error: Volume I separates the events of Russian hacking from the actions of the Trump campaign. The entire point of a “conspiracy and coordination” investigation was the relationship between the two. The ongoing pattern of signal or invitation with response, of cause-and-effect, gets utterly lost in the hundreds of pages of details, the siloing of each character, and especially in the omissions and the errors.
Here is a short, concise timeline of 10 events to show that Mueller found criminal coordination in the back-and-forth between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. Puzzlingly, Mueller omitted some of these events from Volume I, but revealed them in other Mueller team indictments or from Volume II, another strange error.
First, keep in mind some crucial background context of coordination. Trump made frequent positive public comments about Vladimir Putin, especially from 2013 through the campaign. Also keep in mind the active concealed negotiations for Trump Tower Moscow between Trump associates and Russians connected to the Kremlin from June 2015 through June 2016.
1. March-May 2016 in the Trump campaign
Trump hired Paul Manafort as campaign chairman in March. Manafort had well-known direct contacts to Putin’s orbit, namely his old oligarch patron Oleg Deripaska. As the report states, “Manafort stayed in touch with these [Russian] contacts during the campaign period through [alleged Russian spy] Konstantin Kilimnik.” In late April, Trump foreign policy adviser George “Papadopoulos was told by London-based professor Joseph Mifsud… that the Russian government had obtained ‘dirt’ on candidate Clinton in the form of thousands of emails.”
Papadopoulos indicated that the campaign had “received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to candidate Clinton.” In response to Papadopolous’ suggestions of a meeting between Trump and Putin in late May, Manafort writes an email that Trump should not go himself, to avoid sending a public “signal,” but Manafort later makes his own secret contacts through Kilimnik. This context shows Manafort’s awareness of the Papadopolous contacts, circumstantially about the emails, and the negative consequences of public signals.
2. March-May 2016 in Russia
The report identifies this same overlapping period as the peak and pivotal hacking period by Russian military intelligence (GRU), as well as a period of a pro-Trump social media campaign by Russian agents using aliases. But the report fails to show the overlap with these Trump campaign events.
3. June 3-7: Trump Tower meeting scheduled, Trump announces a major speech on Clinton
On June 3, Rob Goldstone, the music producer for a Russian oligarch’s son, emailed Trump Jr. about the chief prosecutor of Russia offering to “provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father. This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump.” He responded: “[I]f it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”
Mueller: My Hands Were Tied on Charging Trump
On June 7 at 5:16 pm, Trump Jr. scheduled the meeting for June 9. That very same evening, Trump announced: “I am going to give a major speech on probably Monday of next week and... discussing all of the things that have taken place with the Clintons.”
The report says the investigation “did not find evidence that the original idea for the speech was connected to the anticipated June 9 meeting.” Many prosecutors would have drawn the opposite inference from Trump Jr.’s subsequent lies about the meeting and Trump’s directions to him to lie as not only felony obstruction but also as evidence of consciousness of guilt and more likely Trump’s contemporaneous knowledge of the meeting. But even if we give Trump (and Mueller) the benefit of the doubt, the next events still show coordination.
4. June 8-9: DCLeaks launches, Don Jr. meets Russian for dirt on Clinton and talks sanctions
A day after Trump’s announcement and his son’s scheduling of a meeting with Kremlin-connected lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Russians immediately launched DCLeaks.com to spread emails that its agents had illegally hacked. This information is in the Mueller indictment of 12 GRU agents, but oddly, the report omits this precise timing. Whether or not Trump knew of the Trump Tower meeting, he could have perceived that his announcement of a speech on Clinton was immediately followed by DCLeaks, and it became one of the major sources of leaks all summer. And the principal campaign officers who met with Russian agents about Clinton information the next day surely could have perceived this cause-and-effect, too.
The next day, Trump Jr., Manafort, and Jared Kushner met Veselnitskaya in Trump Tower. Manafort’s notes from the meeting indicate that the main subject was lifting sanctions on Russia. Unhelpfully, the report buries Manafort’s meeting notes in a footnote with none of this crucial context or commentary. Even without an explicit quid pro quo, the premise of the meeting was “dirt” on Clinton (a quo) and lifting sanctions (quid). A meeting between top Trump campaign officials and Russian government representatives was at least implicitly a suggestion, more than the kind of “wink” and “nod” that the Supreme Court condemned in 2003. The unfolding events in the next day and next months would show acting in concert and coordination.
5. June 14: DNC announces Russian hack, Guccifer2.0 launches blog
Five days after the Trump Tower meeting, the DNC announced Russian hackers had breached the computer network, and its investigators blame GRU officers. The next day, “GRU officers using the persona Guccifer 2.0” created a blog to release the stolen documents, doing so between June 15 and October 18. Yet again, Mueller failed to put this event in the context of the Trump Tower meeting and Trump’s announcement of a forthcoming speech on the Clintons. Someone who knew of the meeting would have seen clear cause-and-effect.
6. July 22: first DNC emails are published, Roger Stone is directed to find out more
WikiLeaks “released over 20,000 emails and other documents stolen from the DNC network”, three days before the Democratic convention in Philadelphia. After the release, a senior campaign official “was directed to contact Stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information” WikiLeaks had. “Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by [WikiLeaks].” This information was in the indictment of Stone. Presumably this detail is redacted from the report, but given its potential significance to the investigation, Mueller should be asked to specify who was directed and who did the directing.
7. July 27: “Russia, if you’re listening…” followed by more hacking
Trump’s press conference on July 27, during the Democratic convention, takes on clearer significance: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.” He even clarified that his message was serious at the time in response to MSNBC’s Katy Tur: “They probably have them. I’d like to have them released… I’d love to see ‘em.” (Mueller omitted this clarifying response.) Given the already established pattern of speech-as-signal or green-light to coordinated Russian response, it is reasonable—even obvious—to conclude that Trump knew precisely what this signal meant, and the signal actually had an immediate response that Mueller documented.
After Trump’s press conference invitation, Russian agents “attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. They also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton Campaign.”
At the same time as his “Russia, if you’re listening” speech, Trump ordered his campaign to find Clinton’s mythical 30,000 deleted emails: “Michael Flynn… recalled that Trump made this request repeatedly, and Flynn subsequently contacted multiple people in an effort to obtain the emails.” Given how many campaign officials had known Russian contacts, and given the recent WikiLeaks leaks, the context makes the meaning implicit: Go coordinate. (It does not matter whether direct contacts happened, because indirect contacts through intermediaries are also prohibited under campaign finance law. For example, using a common vendor can be the basis for finding illegal coordination.)
8. Late July: Trump orders campaign to find emails
Stone’s apparent contacts with Julian Assange could count as knowing coordination with a Russian agent or a known co-conspirator/intermediary with Russian agents. If Trump had directed Stone’s contact or knew of such directions around July 22, and knew of WikiLeaks’ link to hacking, the context of Trump’s order to find the emails has potential criminal significance.
9. Soon after July 22:
“Trump told Gates that more releases of damaging information would be coming… In the summer of 2016, the Campaign was planning a communications strategy based on the possible release of Clinton emails by WikiLeaks.” No matter how Trump knew, this “communication strategy” in the context of earlier events shows an intent to coordinate with Russian hacking. The report buried this detail in Volume II on obstruction, and strangely did not place it properly as a key fact of Trump-Russian coordination. Trump’s public promotion of WikiLeaks’ releases in this context becomes key evidence of coordination.
10. Aug. 2 and thereafter:
Manafort shares with Kilimnik detailed internal polling data, focusing on battleground states Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Minnesota. Manafort continued sharing such information “for some period of time” thereafter. Other Mueller prosecutorial statements indicate that this polling data was substantial, around 70 pages. Gates suspected that Kilimnik was a “spy,” and shared this suspicion with Manafort. (The report also notes the FBI assessed him to be “tied to Russian intelligence,” and that “Kilimnik was fired from his [nonprofit position] because his links to Russian intelligence were too strong.”) “Kilimnik requested the meeting to deliver in person a peace plan for Ukraine that Manafort acknowledged to the Special Counsel's Office was a ‘backdoor’ way for Russia to control part of eastern Ukraine.”
Manafort and Gates had further contacts with Kilimnik after August 2, including more contacts about the “peace plan.” This plan was Russia’s plan to lift sanctions, the quid from the Trump Tower meeting. This was more than just a wink and a nod. It was the consistent message, continuing after the election. Unfortunately, Mueller never made this context clear.
In fact, this episode leads to one of the most dumbfounding passages in the report: “The Office could not reliably determine Manafort’s purpose in sharing internal polling data with Kilimnik during the campaign period.” Mueller entertains Manafort’s assertion that this sharing was “good for business.” Because the polling showed off Manafort’s skills with color graphics? No, because it was valuable coordination between the campaign and Manafort’s oligarch sponsors.
Even if one takes the most charitable interpretation of Manafort’s denial of coordination (to “resolve [Deripaska’s] outstanding lawsuits”), Manafort is essentially confessing to conspiracy/quid pro quo. This is the Mueller Report in a microcosm: he has evidence that Manafort committed two different kinds of crimes, yet he bends over backward to a known liar to conclude that instead of both crimes, it was neither.
After this meeting, the report documents Russia agents targeting Pennsylvania miners with a rally planned for October. But the report failed to mention that Russians also targeted Michigan and Wisconsin in their social media campaign, as was widely reported in 2017. Even if there is no evidence that these ads had a significant effect on the voting, and even if Russian agents had other sources to suggest these states were key battlegrounds, the Russian effort is consistent with a broader pattern of coordination.
Mueller should have concluded that both Manafort and Gates engaged in felony campaign coordination, and he should have indicted Manafort for it. Manafort is a lawyer with decades of experience working for presidential campaigns: it would be less difficult to establish “knowing and willful” violations. And Manafort’s extraordinary record of lying to prosecutors—and coordinating his lies with Trump’s lawyers—would help prove the case as an inference of consciousness of guilt. In the very least, Mueller should have explicitly stated that there was substantial evidence of illegal coordination, even if it was insufficient for a criminal prosecution.
Members of Congress should lay out this timeline clearly on July 17, and ask tough questions of Mueller: Why did you ignore the law of campaign coordination, which was clearly established by Congress and the FEC, and thoroughly upheld in broad terms by the Supreme Court? Did your failure to identify the correct legal standard limit your investigation of Manafort, Gates, Stone, and Trump? If you knew of these rules, why did you fail to identify this coordination as illegal once you found it?
Mueller’s failures and omissions have another round of dangerous cause-and-effect. He is opening the loophole that Congress was purposely trying to avoid, and he is telling all the 2020 campaigns that these rules will not be enforced. Now Trump and his aides seem to think they have legal permission to openly do all of it again. Rudy Giuliani flagrantly tested these coordination rules in his political contacts with Ukraine officials. Given Mueller’s failure and Trump’s exploitation of that failure, it is now Congress’s duty to the public, the candidates under investigation, and future candidates to identify the law clearly, and to explain that some of this behavior was a civil violation, and in fact a criminal violation. |
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he can not do his job, he did not force the trump kids to go before a grand jury and did not force trump to answer question on obstruction under oath. he was paty over country the entire time.
https://news.yahoo.com/robert-mueller-testify-donald-ayer-atlantic-073331802.html
Mueller Needs To 'Finish The Job,' Former Justice Department Official Says
HuffPost Mary Papenfuss,HuffPost•July 15, 2019665 Comments
| Quote: | A former deputy attorney general in George H.W. Bush’s administration says special counsel Robert Mueller should spell out exactly what he thinks about the findings of his investigation.
“Anyone who has carefully read Volume II of the Mueller report knows that it offers a very readable account of repeated acts by the president carefully tailored to interfere with and disrupt the investigation and that it offers an enormous amount of evidence to substantiate its narrative,” Donald Ayer wrote in an essay published Saturday in The Atlantic.
Ayer, who has worked with Mueller, described him as a man with an “extraordinary commitment to values” as well as a “rule follower, a model of rectitude and reserve.” Ayer said these traits don’t appear to be serving Mueller well in the political scrum with President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr.
During a press conference last May, Mueller tried to steer the political narrative back to his report, which detailed the conclusions made during his investigation into accusations of obstruction justice by Trump. But Mueller’s work is not yet done.
“He needs to be more direct about what the investigation found,” Ayer wrote.
Mueller will have another chance to articulate his findings when he testifies on July 24 before the House Intelligence and Judiciary committees. Ayer urged Mueller to use those hearings to offer his professional judgment on the legal significance of the facts he has found.
“It is the only way he can finish the job, and the country’s future depends on it,” Ayer said. |
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Mueller is a coward now... again party over america.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/joe-why-does-mueller-think-he-s-above-testifying-62227525668
Joe: Why does Mueller think he's above testifying?
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here is more coward, Mueller knew trump broke laws before he was elected paying off porno girls and his family complicit. Mueller could have charged them too. But the guy who put his party over america did not do his job. We need a real human to do the job. I believe we need the assistance of the world court and I have to say the flag needs to be flown upside down. Tyrany is here in the USA.
A judge has ordered all info released because the jusdge an not charge Trump that is not the job of the Judicial system. so he is doing what he can. here we have all the trump top level conspiring to commit crimes.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/7/18/1872652/-Government-releases-documents-from-the-Cohen-hush-money-investigation?utm_campaign=trending
Government releases documents from the Cohen hush-money investigation
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here commey notes Mueller did not even know his kids name and he did not know Mueller's. and he had not spoken with Mueller in 3 years.
where the right wing were asking questions implying they were golfing with one another every weekend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgHmnHP8Xa4
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| Sounds from his tap dance this week that Mueller has not even read the report and hasn't even watched the (legitimate) press coverage of the issue over the past year or two. |
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| isobars wrote: | | Sounds from his tap dance this week that Mueller has not even read the report and hasn't even watched the (legitimate) press coverage of the issue over the past year or two. |
that is your take, my take is he does not read out loud well and or is too old to be doing this.
I believe a new independent counsel needs to be appointed. He did not bring in Trump Jr or put him in front of a grand jury and same with many others,. He is just to old to do the job that needs to be done.
He did not even look at Trumps taxes to determine if he was in debt to the russians. He did not even look into the deutsche bank connections where trump was getting funding when no bank in the USA would lend him a penny for 20 plus years. And the mysterious possibly backdoor communications of the trump server talking to deutsche during the campaign that has never been explained.
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as a great example of a sham, he did not even follow the money. What a right wing hack...
what compitent investigator would not follow the money when it as an issue that rump was in debt and doing business to the russians. And that trump lied that he and his people never talked to the russians the entire time, which we have found that was it 100-200 contacts and deals were made or in th works. and to lie about that shows intent. why lie if there is nothing to hide. But life long mueller was so corrept he did not even investigate it. I believe Mueller must be a russian asset too as there is no reasonable explanation for not following the money when it was requested or questioned..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s89WWllTVjA
Mueller Investigation Did Not Follow The Money On Trump: Book | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
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Peter Fritsch and Glenn Simpson, co-founders of Fusion GPS, talk with Rachel Maddow about their new book, Crime in Progress, and investigating Donald Trump's relationship with Russia and the 2016 election. Aired on 11/25/19. |
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if the moron would have done what ultra right wing religious wacko Kenny Boy Star and Bret liar Kavanaugh did and dropped off all the grand jury and investigative materials to the congress and report we would not be in this position. Buts that what happens when a life long right winger investigates a republican.
again he could have gone into following the russian money and deutcha bank and so on too.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blasts-gop-senators-romney-toomey-over-stone-criticism/ar-BB16DUyf?ocid=msedgntp
Trump Blasts GOP Senators Romney, Toomey Over Stone Criticism
| Quote: | Trump instead labeled special counsel Robert Mueller's probe that led to Stone's conviction a "witch hunt." Mueller defended the probe into Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, penning a Saturday Washington Post op-ed that labeled the investigation of "paramount importance" for democracy. In regards to Stone, Mueller wrote the Trump confidante "remains a convicted felon, and rightly so."
"[Stone] lied about the identity of his intermediary to WikiLeaks ... He lied by denying he had communicated with the Trump campaign about the timing of WikiLeaks' releases. He in fact updated senior campaign officials repeatedly about WikiLeaks," Mueller wrote. |
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https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-draft-memo-firing-james-213406526.html
Trump's draft memo firing James Comey was 'tinfoil helmet material,' according to a former Mueller prosecutor's upcoming book
| Quote: | A former prosecutor on the special counsel Robert Mueller's team described a memo that President Donald Trump drafted laying out his reasons for firing FBI Director James Comey as "tinfoil helmet material," according to a new book.
The former prosecutor, James Quarles, described the memo that way in a conversation with another prosecutor on Mueller's team, Andrew Weissmann, according to Weissmann's upcoming memoir, "Where Law Ends." Business Insider obtained an early copy of the book.
"Read this," Quarles told Weissmann in June 2017, shortly after Mueller's team acquired the draft memo, according to the book. "It's tinfoil helmet material."
The memo, which Trump drafted in May of that year with help from one of his top advisers, gave Mueller's team a valuable window into Trump's thinking in the days before he fired Comey. At the time, Comey was spearheading the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
The president did not send the memo to Comey after then-White House counsel Don McGahn expressed strong opposition to the move. Ultimately, the White House enlisted Jeff Sessions and Rod Rosenstein, respectively the attorney general and deputy attorney general at the time, to compose memos justifying Comey's dismissal.
"I read the document immediately, while Jim stood over my desk," Weissmann said, referring to the draft memo. "It was excruciatingly juvenile, disorganized, and brimming with spite — incoherent and narcissistic. You could almost feel the spittle coming off the paper."
Trump and his adviser Stephen Miller put the memo together shortly after Comey confirmed the existence of the Russia probe to Congress.
"In the memo, Trump went out of his way to mention, repeatedly, that Comey had assured him 'on three separate occasions' that he was not under investigation," Weissmann wrote. "From there, it devolved into a stream-of-consciousness tirade against Comey, his investigation into Russian interference in the election, his handling of the Clinton investigation, his mishandling of the FBI, and other grievances, both real and imagined."
Weissmann added that he and Quarles "knew we were looking at perhaps the rawest, most authentic record of the president's thought process — a distillation of his state of mind as he set Comey's firing in motion."
The draft memo played a critical role in Mueller's obstruction-of-justice investigation into the president. Ultimately, the special counsel declined to make a "traditional prosecutorial judgment" on whether the president obstructed justice, citing a Justice Department memo that says a sitting president cannot be indicted.
Weissmann's book, which is set to be released Tuesday, was deeply critical of Mueller's decision in the matter.
When he was asked if Mueller had let down the American public, Weissmann told The Atlantic, "Absolutely, yep." He added: "I wouldn't phrase it as just Mueller. I would say 'the office.' There are a lot of things we did well, and a lot of things we could have done better, to be diplomatic about it."
He also told the outlet: "There's no question I was frustrated at the time. There was more that could be done that we didn't do." |
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