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mat-ty
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GURGLETROUSERS
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Absolutely obvious Mat-ty. (Urgent need for more nuclear power supply.)
As you probably know our country is committed to all electric transport by 2040 (no petrol/diesel) in the headlong rush to prove how green our rulers are. (Green indeed - but in a different sense!)
This latest power failure event was a clear warning of chaos to come unless urgent action is taken now to massively boost our electrical supply system with fully reliable ,continuous night and day year on year, electricity generation. Nuclear is the only available source able to meet that ever increasing demand with certainty.
Realism doesn't allow for a belief in a 'magic wand' type breakthrough any time soon! |
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coboardhead
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| GURGLETROUSERS wrote: | Absolutely obvious Mat-ty. (Urgent need for more nuclear power supply.)
As you probably know our country is committed to all electric transport by 2040 (no petrol/diesel) in the headlong rush to prove how green our rulers are. (Green indeed - but in a different sense!)
This latest power failure event was a clear warning of chaos to come unless urgent action is taken now to massively boost our electrical supply system with fully reliable ,continuous night and day year on year, electricity generation. Nuclear is the only available source able to meet that ever increasing demand with certainty.
Realism doesn't allow for a belief in a 'magic wand' type breakthrough any time soon! |
I agree with this last line. But, it does create a quandary. Without a commitment to alternative and renewable energy, the break throughs will not happen. And, there is significant risk in embracing emerging technologies and going all in.
My personal approach has been to use proven energy sources and technology to reduce my carbon footprint including solar on my home and business and reducing power consumption using new appliances, lights and HVAC. I haven't purchased a hybrid because, until recently, one wasn't available that would make it up the road to my house. Now, thanks to the demand put on the industry, there is that vehicle available.
So, its a double edged sword. If we take the easy way and stay all in with carbon we just get deeper in carbon debt. If we move too quickly to unproven sources we risk catastrophes of a different sort.
We need to have honest conversations about what is attainable. And, to do this we cannot have the zealots on both sides setting policy. |
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mat-ty
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| Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| coboardhead wrote: | | GURGLETROUSERS wrote: | Absolutely obvious Mat-ty. (Urgent need for more nuclear power supply.)
As you probably know our country is committed to all electric transport by 2040 (no petrol/diesel) in the headlong rush to prove how green our rulers are. (Green indeed - but in a different sense!)
This latest power failure event was a clear warning of chaos to come unless urgent action is taken now to massively boost our electrical supply system with fully reliable ,continuous night and day year on year, electricity generation. Nuclear is the only available source able to meet that ever increasing demand with certainty.
Realism doesn't allow for a belief in a 'magic wand' type breakthrough any time soon! |
I agree with this last line. But, it does create a quandary. Without a commitment to alternative and renewable energy, the break throughs will not happen. And, there is significant risk in embracing emerging technologies and going all in.
My personal approach has been to use proven energy sources and technology to reduce my carbon footprint including solar on my home and business and reducing power consumption using new appliances, lights and HVAC. I haven't purchased a hybrid because, until recently, one wasn't available that would make it up the road to my house. Now, thanks to the demand put on the industry, there is that vehicle available.
So, its a double edged sword. If we take the easy way and stay all in with carbon we just get deeper in carbon debt. If we move too quickly to unproven sources we risk catastrophes of a different sort.
We need to have honest conversations about what is attainable. And, to do this we cannot have the zealots on both sides setting policy. |
True.....but meanwhile we have 7 billion people demanding energy. It could fill the void till there is a better realistic option and cut down on global warming, deaths from pollution and more....the benefit far outweighs the risk IMO |
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techno900
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coboardhead said: | Quote: | I agree with this last line. But, it does create a quandary. Without a commitment to alternative and renewable energy, the break throughs will not happen. And, there is significant risk in embracing emerging technologies and going all in.
My personal approach has been to use proven energy sources and technology to reduce my carbon footprint including solar on my home and business and reducing power consumption using new appliances, lights and HVAC. I haven't purchased a hybrid because, until recently, one wasn't available that would make it up the road to my house. Now, thanks to the demand put on the industry, there is that vehicle available.
So, its a double edged sword. If we take the easy way and stay all in with carbon we just get deeper in carbon debt. If we move too quickly to unproven sources we risk catastrophes of a different sort.
We need to have honest conversations about what is attainable. And, to do this we cannot have the zealots on both sides setting policy. |
All fine and dandy, but how about the rest of the world? China being the biggest problem, then India and Russia. Yes, we are number two and a part of the problem (15%), but even if we become 100% clean, there is a long, long, way to go. We need to approach the issue in a rational way, which the left seems to ignore. |
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coboardhead
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| Unless we can agree that climate change is real, we cannot begin to address solutions in a "rational" manner. This isn't just the fault of the left as you guys cast it. Denial is not a strategy. |
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mat-ty
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| coboardhead wrote: | | Unless we can agree that climate change is real, we cannot begin to address solutions in a "rational" manner. This isn't just the fault of the left as you guys cast it. Denial is not a strategy. |
I don't deny Climate Change....I just find it painful to listen to the left when they offer no realistic solutions. |
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techno900
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coboardhead said: | Quote: | | Unless we can agree that climate change is real, we cannot begin to address solutions in a "rational" manner. This isn't just the fault of the left as you guys cast it. Denial is not a strategy. |
Fine and dandy, but no comment on the key players of the world and their commitment to carbon reduction. The US isn't just sitting on their butts, progress is being made while the biggest players in the world continue to be a growing problem.
| Quote: | | U.S. Leads World In Reducing CO2 Emissions, While Paris Accord Nations Break Promises |
Read more at:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/34848/study-us-leads-world-reducing-co2-emissions-while-james-barrett |
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Maybe the dumbest thing you'll read all day, from a known fraudster...
Global warming comes to Australia. Unless you want to believe your lying eyes! https://t.co/uw83nTdIPc
— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) August 12, 2019 |
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mat-ty
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| boggsman1 wrote: | Maybe the dumbest thing you'll read all day, from a known fraudster...
Global warming comes to Australia. Unless you want to believe your lying eyes! https://t.co/uw83nTdIPc
— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) August 12, 2019 |
Almost as bad as the retard I saw on MSNBC last week who claimed Trumps call to fly flags at half mast till 8/8 was code for Heil Hitler.....apparently H is the eight letter in the alphabet......so 8/8 is now nazi code.........sick mother fuckers.. |
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