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cgoudie1



Joined: 10 Apr 2006
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Location: Killer Sturgeon Cove

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, just like that. I don't see those anywhere on Chinooks web site.
Maybe the last of the previous Chinese UNIs.

-Craig

akrausz wrote:
cgoudie1 wrote:
Well, that's nice and all, but what I really want is the rubber uni with 2 Bolt quick disconnect. They don't have that yet, but I'm hoping

Like this?
https://www.worldwinds.net/chinook-2-bolt-upper-rubber-joint-us
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isobars



Joined: 12 Dec 1999
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$68.00???!!!
JEEZ, guys ... [i]swap meets[/i]. .
New: $10-$20 including two-bolt base plate
That's why I bought a box of them.
Yet I know many local sailors who have never been to a swap meet.
Support the CGW2.


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isobars



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

akrausz wrote:
I just couldn't stop them from twisting themselves loose while sailing.

Chalk up yet another reason to use only the two-bolt base.
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cgoudie1



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I consider swap meet UNIs if they're new. Used UNIs are a little like used
masts. I might buy one, but you never know what they've been through,
and they're kinda critical to get you back to your beer cooler.

-Craig

isobars wrote:
$68.00???!!!
JEEZ, guys ... [i]swap meets[/i]. .
New: $10-$20 including two-bolt base plate
That's why I bought a box of them.
Yet I know many local sailors who have never been to a swap meet.
Support the CGW2.
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dllee



Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have used 1 bolt bases since 1983.
Maybe a total of 100 days on 2 bolt.
So, 2,500 days on 1 bolt, including over 400 surfsailing days.
Once, the slug shattered on landing.
Maybe 7 times, got loose and slid forwards to front of track.
Never slid back and detached.
Had over 20 joint failures.
Snapped 6 boards in half.
Broke more than 12 carbon and 15 alu booms.
Definitely 15 masts.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mech joints.
In mid 90's, used 100 days, got tight, no failure.
This year, 50 foil days and 10 hi wind ws days,no problems at all.
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dllee



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had maybe 8 or so rubber joints break.
Mostly the bottom tips out of the plastic base, maybe one or 2 in the middle.
Working for Kinetic in early 2000, at least 600 rubber joints passed thru me...maybe 800.
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killeen_john



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kind of interested in trying out the mechanical joint on my boards. I have an older (10+ years) Chinook 2 bolt rubber (Kinetic) joint US Cup mast base that should have the joimt replaced and was wondering if the mechanical joint could be retrofit/swapped in place of the rubber joint? The photos sure make it look like a direct swap and maybe just needs some different hardware to make it work plus red Loctite.

https://chinooksailing.com/collections/mast-base-parts-hardware/products/mechanical-universal-joint
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grantmac017



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

killeen_john wrote:
I'm kind of interested in trying out the mechanical joint on my boards. I have an older (10+ years) Chinook 2 bolt rubber (Kinetic) joint US Cup mast base that should have the joimt replaced and was wondering if the mechanical joint could be retrofit/swapped in place of the rubber joint? The photos sure make it look like a direct swap and maybe just needs some different hardware to make it work plus red Loctite.

https://chinooksailing.com/collections/mast-base-parts-hardware/products/mechanical-universal-joint


I've done it, works fine.
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killeen_john



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grantmac017 wrote:
I've done it, works fine.

Thanks!
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