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nw30



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Full liberal hate, full time from NW. If I used his reasoning, I would say that is bigotry. But it's just his way of being deplorable. It is, of course, misogynistic.
"Hate, bigotry, deplorable, misogynistic", that's it, that's all you've got?
I'm disappointed in you, you're slipping. You forgot burning down the schools I went to, wearing a tinfoil hat, eating peanuts, and supporting our president. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean supporting this crook?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well................maybe not.

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In January 2019, Letitia James took over as New York attorney general and continued the state’s case against the Trumps. On Nov. 7, the state’s Supreme Court published a final resolution of the case, one which did not bar either President Trump or his children Eric and Ivanka, from running charities in the state of New York.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-steal-kids-cancer-charity/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, maybe it was only self-dealing—like buying a self-portrait with charitable donations—and then settling to avoid a conviction. Much worse than anything the Clinton foundation was found to have done.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each one a perfect peanut to be chewed and savored.

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Glenn Kessler,
Salvador Rizzo and
Meg Kelly
Jan. 20, 2020 at 12:00 a.m. PST
Three years after taking the oath of office, President Trump has made more than 16,200 false or misleading claims — a milestone that would have been unthinkable when we first created the Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement he has uttered.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

again they are not pointing out starr was also part of Epstein's legal team and appeals. What a piece of human filth defending a child predator for profit or any reason. people need to tell that idiot to shut the F up same with Dirt. again right-wingers said Hillary defending a rape subject somehow was unfathomable, and that one was when she just got out of law school and she was ordered to by a judge and she again asked off of it.

these two millionaire lawyers took money to his death defending the most horrific child abuser in the history of the USA. Again I can only think of one reason to do so, so they would not be caught for their child abuse Epstein got them trapped into. and again one girl did say at least Dirt did.

right-wingers love their pedophile defenders and doers.

https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/trump-s-impeachment-lawyer-starr-could-hurt-defense-expert-says-77030981601




Trump’s impeachment lawyer Starr could hurt defense expert says


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Donald Trump retaining lawyer Ken Starr could hurt the president’s impeachment defense, legal expert Neal Katyal tells Joy Reid. The former US Acting Solicitor General explains that in his view, ‘What everyone thinks about what Clinton did, it's nothing compared to the executive abuses of Trump.’


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By Steve Benen
It wasn’t until late last week that Donald Trump’s legal team expanded in preparation for the Senate’s impeachment trial, and as the Center for a New American Security’s Carrie Cordero noted, it’s not exactly a powerhouse roster.

“Contrary to tone of some coverage, I’m struck by the *lack* of conservative legal star power on Trump’s impeachment team,” Cordero wrote, adding that there’s “no credible constitutional superstar.”

George Conway appeared to be thinking along the same lines, arguing in a Washington Post op-ed, “This is what happens when you don’t pay your legal bills.”

President Trump, whose businesses and now campaign have left a long trail of unpaid bills behind them, has never discriminated when it comes to stiffing people who work for him. That includes lawyers – which is part of the reason he found the need to make some curious last-minute tweaks to his team, announcing the addition of the legal odd couple of Alan Dershowitz and Kenneth W. Starr.

The president has consistently encountered difficulty in hiring good lawyers to defend him. In 2017, after Robert S. Mueller III became special counsel, Trump couldn’t find a high-end law firm that would take him as a client. His reputation for nonpayment preceded him: One major Manhattan firm I know had once been forced to eat bills for millions in bond work it once did for Trump. No doubt other members of the legal community knew of other examples.

Of course, being cheap wasn’t the only reason Trump struck out among the nation’s legal elite. There was the fact that he would be an erratic client who’d never take reasonable direction – direction as in shut up and stop tweeting.

There was a point a couple of years ago, as the president’s Russia scandal was intensifying, when he needed sound legal representation and bragged that the “top” law firms were eager to take him on as a client. That was very hard to believe: I put together a list in April 2018 of the lawyers who’d turned Trump down, and it wasn’t an especially short list.

There’s been no comparable reporting of late about specific, high-profile lawyers rejecting the president’s overtures ahead of his impeachment trial, but it seems as if Trump has ended up with a group of attorneys he chose because he saw them on television.


In fact, he could hardly avoid them. Media Matters noted:

On January 17, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins and Pamela Brown reported that attorneys Ken Starr, Alan Dershowitz, and Robert Ray are all expected to join President Donald Trump’s legal team for his impeachment trial in the United States Senate. The Washington Post’s Josh Dawsey reported that former Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi will also be joining the team. Combined, Starr, Dershowitz, Bondi, and Ray have made at least 365 weekday Fox News appearances since January 2019.

After Team Trump confirmed the legal line-up, the Washington Post reported that the president wanted Dershowitz and Pam Bondi representing him in the impeachment case at least in part “because he thinks they are talented on TV.” Politico added that Trump liked Ken Starr because his work on the Clinton impeachment saga helped create “the type of juicy storyline Trump the executive producer wants to orchestrate.”

I’d just add that Jay Sekulow is helping lead Trump’s team, despite his own controversies, and despite having the entirely wrong kind of professional background, and it’s likely because the president learned of him by way of his media appearances.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You two guys (the mac and Dean show) are a crack up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
You two guys (the mac and Dean show) are a crack up.


and all you got is an illegal murder to go to war over, again Ian bombed bombed bombed american installation and trump cut and ran. Trump was not able to shoot one of those missiles down and was at full alert. Tells you how vulnerable we are. Not to mention what 9-11 took a bunch of poor people what 10 or so years to give their true payback. And that was a nothing burger of what a terrorist who wants real revenge can do to the USA. you joke and the usa cut and ran and could not stop those missiles from hitting.

You can not counter the points we bring up so you McVeigh another right wing hero... actually coward like you... Low IQ of 30...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/watch/former-republican-member-of-congress-finds-lev-parnas-credible/vp-BBZ7vJb




Former Republican member of Congress ‘finds Lev Parnas credible’


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Up Next:Virginia Gun Rights Activist: 'Ready To Show The Government' I Will Stand For My Rights
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Former Republican member of Congress ‘finds Lev Parnas credible’
Duration: 02:58 1 day ago

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Ukraine scandal-related documents show that Lev Parnas engaged in conversations with a Devin Nunes staffer regarding the Ukraine aid. Former Republican member of Congress Carlos Curbelo joins Joy Reid to discuss Parnas and the state of the GOP telling AM JOY, ‘I find Lev Parnas credible.’

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/watch/two-former-senators-talk-differences-between-trump-clinton-trials/vp-BBZ9yNC




Two former senators talk differences between Trump, Clinton trials


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Former Senators Russ Feingold (D-WI) and Kent Conrad (D-ND) discuss with Andrea Mitchell the landscape of the Senate going into the Trump impeachment trial, particularly the decline in collegiality between members of opposing parties. Feingold notably broke with his party by voting not to dismiss the articles of impeachment against Bill Clinton in 1999.

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