Nutty California

[mac]

[coachg]

[quote="mrgybe"]

[mac]

Silence is complicity. There is no credible way you can ignore the 150 + confederate memorials in the state of North Carolina alone, most on public property, and then deny that institutional racism exists.

Silence is complicity.

By the way, I never introduce politics to my students. Like religion, their political views, and mine, are their own and protected by privacy. I do not, however, let them get away with bullying.

[techno900]

Every state has issues, nothing new with that. North Carolina as well as many other states have been aggressively dealing with the concerns of the black community, including removing statutes on public land. Private property is another issue. I support the things that I believe will improve my state, and removing the statues is fine with me, but I do believe that there is a place for them somewhere, where the historical implications (even negative) can be preserved as a part of our country's past history.

This whole thread surfaced because California, under it's current liberal leadership has been digging a financial hole that may be impossible to climb out from. I could have picked on other states, but Calif. is where I grew up, and I hate to see where it is going. Most of the things that I have posted are samples of what can happen when the left pushes too hard to the left, including illegal immigration. There are plenty of other liberal states that are just as nutty.

When it comes to "silence is complicity", Mac won't respond to the earlier part of this current topic - is a wealth tax something that he supports, including 10 years post moving out of state. I have offered my opinion/concern above, but his silence as well as the rest of the lefties here suggests to me that the wealth tax is a nutty option.

[mrgybe]

[mac]

[swchandler]

techno900, maybe all the statues celebrating traitors to the United States can be moved to that famous "Confederate Museum" located in the deep South, somewhere. There must be so many folks that flock there already. It's obviously the best choice moving into the future.

To augment the museum's attractions, maybe some enterprising Southern-minded entrepreneurs could create a magnificent amusement park and wonderland. Just imagine, a fancy Trump hotel and golf course to push it over the top.

In the South, some people just aren't ready to abandon the idea that the Confederacy was a noble and admirable cause. Isn't it what all those Confederate statues were about in the first place, many of which were created many decades after the Civil War? It was about keeping the treasonous idea of the Confederacy, and its people, alive long into the future.

[mac]

Chandler—one of my old interns, Kirk Savage, wrote the seminal book on the confederate monuments, “Standing Soldiers, kneeling Slaves.” https://muse.jhu.edu/book/55664

The monuments were installed at the end stage of resistance to reconstruction. They were part of a comprehensive effort to strip power from African Americans and to reassert white supremacy. That effort was enforced by violence, and effectively prevented blacks from voting until after the Civil Rights Act of 1965.

Efforts to prevent minorities from voting continue as fundamental GOP policy.

Silence is complicity. Just incidentally, I’ve been to North Carolina many times.

[mac]

[swchandler]

mac, you do realize that my last post included an element of satire, right?

Overall though, we must realize that folks in America, however misguided, can privately worship and herald the heroes of the Confederacy. I can only hope that this kind thing isn't generally acceptable on the federal, state or local government levels like it has been for far too many years.

Things are beginning to change, and that's a good sign.