look who else thinks trump is a liar

[mac]

I think the idea that most politicians lie is completely untrue. Until Trump it was pretty rare in my experience. Most politicians are at least a bit narcissistic, and they hate being surprised. But I’ve known and worked with dozens, and most of them are interested in serving the public, or in some specific accomplishment.

[LHDR]

You know better than me, and you may be right at the local level. But aren't most major Republican ideas based on lies? That tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations will trickle down to the bottom half, that climate change is a not happening and may not be limited by reducing greenhouse gases, that Obama has no mandate to nominate a judge to the supreme court, that Obamacare will ruin the country?

[coboardhead]

I agree with LHDR. The GOP Has creates a narrative based on lies and deception. To claim otherwise is, simply, ignoring facts.

[mac]

I was objecting to cgoudie’s characterization of all politicians as mendacious. Certainly I’ve run into politicians who were dishonest—and I helped put one in jail. 40 years ago, most of the Republicans I knew were pretty high integrity folks. I might have disagreed with their policy views, but I rarely doubted the sincerity of their views. That changed some with Reagan, more rapidly with Newt and Rush. Integrity is now gone. The GOP politicians, with perhaps three exceptions, are terrified of Trump. The Senate report just released makes it clear that Republican Senators knew the Trump campaign colluded with Russia and that his attempted extortion of the Ukraine President was treasonous. At this moment, it looks like they would have been better off if they had convicted fat donnie and gone with Pence.

Tuned in for a while tonight, but about hurled with the video claiming that Trump had handled the pandemic well, by shutting off travel to China. That’s spin that amounts to a lie. 40,000 people came to this country from China after the travel ban. And the bulk of the East Coast infections came from Europe.

It could have been scripted by mrgybe. One tiny truth in a wall of lies. I had to watch basketball or I was gonna hurl.

[real-human]

a network is lying everyday since their inception, they claim they are "fair and balanced"

Nixon I believe is still a hero to much of the right wing. The right wing supports his criminality to this date. He was supporting payoffs to criminals breaking into dem psychologists and offices.

Right wing Supreme court who allows trump to get away without investigations into very serious corruption with a witness/actor of the crimes said he did it for trump and went to jail for it.

Right wing political lying is oozing out of every pore of their party with full support of the right wing. With the exception of a remarkable unprecedented top level few that that even have said they support Biden. In the history of elections I doubt it could ever be found so many at the top being outspoken against right wing lying. But this has no effect on the 90% of right wingers who love lies and the liars that tell them.

[isobars]

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