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nw30



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Techno’s source:

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One of the leading physicians in Kiryas Joel, Dr Zev Zelenko, has announced that he is leaving the Village of Kiryas Joel where he has been practicing medicine for nearly two decades.

Zelenko made national headlines recently by promoting Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19.


Obviously the Village of Kiryas Joel is the academic peak for infectious disease control.

You can’t make up stuff this stupid. I shudder to think this guy was once a schoolteacher.
Look who's talking, it must take one to know one.
mac, you're such "a one horse pony".
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wsurfer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Comprehensive analysis of 50 states shows greater spread with mask mandates

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-comprehensive-analysis-of-50-states-shows-greater-spread-with-mask-mandates?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20201221Trending-HorowitzMaskMandates&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News


Ergo mask mandates cause greater spread. F'n brilliant!!!
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mac



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
mac wrote:
Techno’s source:

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One of the leading physicians in Kiryas Joel, Dr Zev Zelenko, has announced that he is leaving the Village of Kiryas Joel where he has been practicing medicine for nearly two decades.

Zelenko made national headlines recently by promoting Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19.


Obviously the Village of Kiryas Joel is the academic peak for infectious disease control.

You can’t make up stuff this stupid. I shudder to think this guy was once a schoolteacher.
Look who's talking, it must take one to know one.
mac, you're such "a one horse pony".


No defense for Dr. Zelenko? You're all in on chasing National Enquirer stories in the middle of a pandemic? After all, you voted for a National Enquirer president who has paid to kill stories about his crimes.

Like I said, you can't make up this shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:
Comprehensive analysis of 50 states shows greater spread with mask mandates

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-comprehensive-analysis-of-50-states-shows-greater-spread-with-mask-mandates?utm_source=theblaze-breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20201221Trending-HorowitzMaskMandates&utm_term=ACTIVE%20LIST%20-%20TheBlaze%20Breaking%20News


In quotes from the book, Let Us Dream: A Path to a Better Future, is derived from conversations between the Pontiff and his British biographer Austen Ivereigh, the Pope hit out at those who claim “that being forced to wear a mask is an unwarranted imposition by the state”.

“Some groups protested, refusing to keep their distance, marching against travel restrictions – as if measures that governments must impose for the good of their people constitute some kind of political assault on autonomy or personal freedom,” he said.

“You’ll never find such people protesting the death of George Floyd, or joining a demonstration because there are shantytowns where children lack water or education, or because there are whole families who have lost their income,” he said. “On such matters they would never protest; they are incapable of moving outside of their own little world of interests.”

https://www.irishpost.com/news/pope-slams-anti-mask-protesters-opposed-to-covid-restrictions-for-being-stuck-in-their-own-little-world-of-interests-198624
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mac



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course Daniel Horowitz is a liar. More peanuts for Mike and crew.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/05/09/fact-checking-david-horowitz
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops. Thailand used the WHO recommendation—and has had less than 6,000 cases. About 1/50th of the US death rate. The CDC? Oops.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/cdc-covid/2020/12/25/c2b418ae-4206-11eb-8db8-395dedaaa036_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F2de0633%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093%2F5976d6ccade4e26514ba9956%2F8%2F68%2F5fe766a79d2fda0efb94a093
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J64TWB



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan has 24 million people right mrgybe? You, the world traveler should know this. 24 million people, 780 cases, 7 deaths. That’s right, seven hundred and eighty cases, 7 deaths total since March. It’s non existent in Taiwan.

The US population is 328 million right gybe? 328,000,000 people, 18.8 million cases, 330,000 deaths since March and were are not even close to being done.

Anyone of you fuckheads think Burnt Orange Don is on top of this? My neighbor did a last minute road trip to Missouri to say goodbye to his Mom. Stopped once to get gas in Trump fuckhead country, no credit cards at the pump, put on mask, walked inside and got called out twice for wearing a mask. Yep, you dumbfucks are really fucking dumb.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

remeber F-head said he would get the qualified people for government... qualified to rape steal and kill for him is his only qualification. here is the person he hired to run things on covid. another right wing religious hater quack. again this is why Thailand was able to test in a week and it took us months.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-cdcs-failed-race-against-covid-19-a-threat-underestimated-and-a-test-overcomplicated/ar-BB1cffKC?ocid=msedgntp




The CDC’s failed race against covid-19: A threat underestimated and a test overcomplicated


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A new virus was exploding in Wuhan, a Chinese city with 11 million people connected by its airport to destinations around the world. In the United States, doctors and hospitals were waiting for the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to develop a test to detect the threat.

a traffic light sitting on the side of a road: The Atlanta headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.© Ron Harris/AP The Atlanta headquarters of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
On Jan. 13, the World Health Organization had made public a recipe for how to configure such a test, and several countries wasted no time getting started: Within hours, scientists in Thailand used the instructions to deploy a new test.


The CDC would not roll out one that worked for 46 more days.

Inside the 15-acre campus of the CDC in northeast Atlanta, the senior scientists developing the coronavirus test were fighting and losing the battle against time.

The agency squandered weeks as it pursued a test design far more complicated than the WHO version and as its scientists wrestled with failures that regulators would later trace to a contaminated lab.





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A working test within hours
Since its founding in 1946, the CDC has grown from a regional bulwark against malaria in the southern United States to a world leader in fighting diseases of all kinds.

Nowhere has the CDC’s presence abroad been larger than in Thailand, where the agency maintains offices and a staff of about 170 epidemiologists, laboratory specialists and others. In 1980, the CDC established its first overseas epidemiology program in a suburb of Bangkok, training a new cadre of disease detectives.

In early January, Thai doctors in Bangkok were worried by the outbreak in Wuhan, less than seven hours away by airliner. They strategized at length about the threat with their local CDC counterparts. They also learned from scientists enough about the genetic makeup of the new coronavirus to begin developing a molecular test for in-hospital use.

That initial test would use real-time polymerase chain reaction, or RT-PCR, to examine sputum samples in search of unique genetic material from the virus.

On Jan. 12, using their new test, the Thais became the first country to confirm a coronavirus case outside China, a sickened traveler from Wuhan.


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/05/13/opinions/trumps-terrible-choice-for-cdc-redfield-garrett/index.html

Updated 0351 GMT (1151 HKT) May 14, 2018


The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a new boss, Dr. Robert Redfield, who ignited controversy because of his dubious qualifications for the job and the over-the-top salary offer that came with it.


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The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a new boss, Dr. Robert Redfield, who ignited controversy because of his dubious qualifications for the job and the over-the-top salary offer that came with it.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to hire the best and brightest when those people see you as a person they are unable to work for. In other words a dickhead and a f'cker.
Those who took a job in the administration hoping to change or reign him in were either fired or left.
Only other grifters have gotten in line for a job and bowed to him!
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mac



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too long to post, and I'm not sure if you can read it without a New Yorker subscription, but the first comprehensive history of COVID in the US that I've seen. Without studying history, we're doomed to repeat it. Well worth a read, or buying the issue if necessary.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_122820&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5dfabdf7fc942d641a20c2e1&cndid=28886814&hasha=50a49ee4eeff8b7d418ff57d217d3beb&hashb=6f5d489012732b7aa770fb5e3828f8210cbb7ba1&hashc=9b48f2f27b5765b8fae61887f02d334ccc060921a4938a43449259568394713d&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily

I'll post one or two snippets.

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The third and final chance to contain the infection—masks—was the easiest, the cheapest, and perhaps the most effective. But the Administration, and the country, failed to meet the challenge.

On March 4th, as Matt Pottinger was driving to the White House, he was on the phone with a doctor in China. Taking notes on the back of an envelope while navigating traffic, he was hearing valuable new information about how the virus was being contained in China. The doctor mentioned the antiviral drug remdesivir—which was just emerging as a possible therapy in the U.S.—and emphasized that masks were extremely effective with covid, more so than with influenza. “It’s great to carry around your own hand sanitizer,” the doctor said. “But masks are going to win the day.”


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Tens of millions of Americans emulated the President’s bravado, and the unchecked virus prolonged unemployment, upended efforts to reopen the economy, and caused many more fatalities. “I’m not buying a fucking mask,” Richard Rose, a thirty-seven-year-old Army veteran from Ohio, posted on Facebook. “I’ve made it this far by not buying into that damn hype.” He tested positive on July 1st and died three days later. There are many similar stories.

It’s dispiriting to think that, had such a simple precaution been broadly implemented from the start, America could have avoided so much suffering, death, impoverishment, and grief. The starkest example occurred in Kansas, when the governor issued an executive order to wear masks in public but allowed counties to opt out. It was as if Kansas were performing a clinical trial on itself. Within two months, infections in mask-wearing counties had fallen by six per cent; elsewhere, infections rose a hundred per cent.
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