Coronavirus

mac · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:51 pm Post subject:

Covid is again soaring, worldwide case counts are the highest ever. More than 400,000 new infections in the US reported yesterday. More than 5 million have died world wide, and over 800,000 in the United States.

Grifters and Russian trolls are spreading nonsense about the dangers of vaccine, and paranoid people, mostly from the right, are buying it. The logic so far is:

vaccination doesn't completely protect you from infection, therefore it is worthless.

not as many children die from Covid as from other diseases, therefore we shouldn't worry about vaccinating them.

Because of better scientific understanding about how to treat Covid, and because of mutations that have made the virus more infectious but less deadly, the death count is down. But the virus has killed more than 800 children, whose parents will not be comforted by Techno's nostrums that more kids die from other diseases and auto accidents. The idea that any medical treatment that is not perfect is useless, and we should just not worry about kids getting infected are so sick and bizarre that it just boggles the mind. Beyond stupid, beyond paranoid.

And mrgybe? Who compared this to the flu, defended Trump's response, and scoffed at the possibility that it could kill a million Americans? Seldom in doubt, rarely right.

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

mac · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:43 pm Post subject:

Notice how the goal posts moved? From children aren’t at risk from Covid, but are at risk from vaccines, to closing schools?

coboardhead · Joined: 26 Oct 2009 Posts: 4303

https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/hesitancy-vaccinate-children

Wrong again Mrgybe. Compare red states vs blue states here. Similar trends.

I am not the one who politicized vaccines. The GOP did. Not recognizing the damage that those from the rabid right have caused on the vaccine front is burying one's head in the sand.

The folks in the "red" county where my wife works had one of the highest hospitalization rates for COVID in the State. The trend is widespread throughout the region. That trend, in that County, continues with the vaccination rate of children. Shows on that map too.

At a rally where Trump claimed he received a booster, he was booed. That's not political? Really? Since you seem to know so much about this, why don't you explain the correlation between counties that voted for Trump vs Biden with the vaccination rate. What is your explanation?

I would like to point out that Techno provided old data from a right wing source that included a narrative about how poorly the Biden Administration has done with the CV pandemic. Techno, Isobars, Mlorande all spin and there is silence from you. When I respond to this spin and call it out, I am the divisive one?

mac · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:47 pm Post subject:

Techno’s “credible” source.

mac · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:10 pm Post subject:

Even though he believed that evil spirits were spreading the plague, Martin Luther had a better sense of his responsibilities to his community than modern “conservatives”.

GURGLETROUSERS · Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 2643

It is a pity that this thread has now turned political, but if so, I think our country (U.K.) must be an exception to the rule.

Our Conservative (right wing if people insist) Government first instigated a leading vaccination drive against the original virus attacks, and now a booster drive (over a million every day taking it up) against the latest (Omicron) virus, INCLUDING advising parents to accept the vaccination (Pfizer jab) of their children to keep us all protected.

The opposition to vaccination in our society is form a number of sources which, sadly but factually, include culturally different religious ethnic groupings who put their faith in their god, (openly state so when asked why they reject and refuse vaccination), and, some prominent and leading high profile 'hard left people such as the brother of our last leader of the left wing opposition party who was rejected at the last general election. He holds well attended rallies inciting supporters to target vaccination centres (as with Trump's attempt to take control) which has led to demands that he be investigated by the police for inciting violence.

I'm not suggesting that it is mainly a political issue over here, just that the politically motivated can spin the situation into just that, when the fact is that the sensible majority accept the vaccination advice )from the current Conservative Government) and just get on with it!

techno900 · Joined: 28 Mar 2001 Posts: 4161

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