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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

note in the first ruling it was 2-1 with the two right wingers anointed by trump ruling for trump but notice when the full court rules, 8-2 flipping their right wing protection racket.

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2020/08/31/Appeals-court-rejects-effort-to-dismiss-case-against-Michael-Flynn/6661598893397/


Appeals court rejects effort to dismiss case against Michael Flynn


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Aug. 31 (UPI) -- The full D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Monday that a district court hearing on the Justice Department's effort to dismiss a criminal case against former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn can proceed.

Attorney General William Barr had moved to drop charges against Flynn in May, which were connected to false statement charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

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Flynn had initially pleaded guilty in 2017 to a false-statement charge, but later hired a new defense team and sought to withdraw the plea deal. President Donald Trump weighed in publicly in support of Flynn before Barr stepped in to drop the case, citing new evidence.

District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan balked initially at dropping the case, ordering a hearing on the matter. Flynn's legal team asked the appeals court to force Sullivan to drop the case without the hearing. A three-judge panel from the court agreed with the Justice Department 2-1 before the full court said they wanted to hear the case. The full court ruled 8-2 in Sullivan's favor.

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Judge Thomas Griffith said it its opinion that it was premature for the appeals court to intervene before Sullivan held his hearing and made a decision.

"Today we reach the unexceptional yet important conclusion that a court of appeals should stay its hand and allow the district court to finish its work rather than hear a challenge to a decision, not yet made," Griffith said. "That is a policy the federal courts have followed since the beginning of the Republic."

Judges Karen Henderson and Neomi Rao, who ruled in favor of the Justice Department as part of the earlier three-judge panel, filed separate dissents.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lock these right wing in-justice department officials up...

They forged/altered documents and presented them to the court. It is illegal

Do not delay do it now lock them up all the way to the top who put these lies into motion...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/doj-faces-new-questions-about-accuracy-of-flynn-filings/ar-BB1arJUf?ocid=msedgntp


DOJ faces new questions about accuracy of Flynn filings


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The Justice Department is already facing sharp questions from a judge about altering sensitive documents in the case of former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Now, two lawyers connected to the case say DOJ has made new mischaracterizations in its attempt to clean up the mess.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is what happens when you let a traitor off with a getout of jail free card...

he calls for an insurection...

and his brother gets involved too...

lock him up...
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WaPo: Meeting on military response to Trump riot included Mike Flynn's brother


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Rachel Maddow shares new reporting from the Washington Post that the Pentagon now admits, after days of denials, that Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn, the brother of disgraced former Trump NSA Michael Flynn, was involved in a key meeting on the military response as Trump supporters rioted in the U.S. Capitol.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-appeals-court-refuses-to-re-examine-conviction-of-michael-flynn-s-former-business-associate/ar-BB1g6OyF?ocid=msedgntp

Federal Appeals Court Refuses to Re-Examine Conviction of Michael Flynn’s Former Business Associate


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A complete panel of federal appeals court judges has declined to hear the case of a Trump transition team member convicted of recruiting Michael Flynn to take part in a Turkish government influence operation.

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In July 2019, a jury convicted Bijan Rafiekian, also known as Bijan Kian for short, 69, of San Juan Capistrano, Calif., of acting as an undisclosed agent of a foreign government and of conspiring with Kamil Ekim Alptekin, 43, of Istanbul, to covertly operate in the United States. Federal District Judge Anthony John Trenga of the Eastern District of Virginia threw out the conviction and, in the event of an appeal, preemptively granted Rafiekian a new trial.


A standard panel of three judges on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on March 18th the district judge was wrong to throw out the verdict and wrong to conjure up the thought of a new trial. Circuit Judges Paul V. Niemeyer (a George H. W. Bush nominee), Barbara Milano Keenan (a Barack Obama nominee), and James A. Wynn, Jr. (also a Barack Obama nominee) said that the jury “heard sufficient evidence” to convict, even if some of the logic of the case was convoluted

“Under our deferential standard of review, we must uphold the jury’s verdict if any trier of fact could have found that the evidence either direct, circumstantial or a combination of both — along with any reasonable inference[s]” established the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt,” the three-judge panel ruled. “Based on the evidence presented, a rational juror could conclude that Project Truth was synonymous with Project Confidence; that the Turkish government was, in fact, behind the project; that, through Alptekin, Turkey communicated both general and specific instructions; and that Rafiekian hewed to those directions over the life of the engagement—all without notifying the Attorney General. That is enough to make out a § 951 violation.”

The three-judge panel also ruled that the district judge “failed to adequately take into account judicially recognized factors constraining its authority and rested its decision on erroneous legal premises” (some internal punctuation omitted). In other words, the district judge was way out of line.

In a succinct one-page order, the Fourth Circuit on Tuesday refused to re-hear the case en banc — with every judge on the circuit sitting.

“The petition for rehearing en banc was circulated to the full court,” the order reads. “No judge requested a poll under Fed. R. App. P. 35. The court denies the petition for rehearing en banc.”

That leaves Rafiekian to plead for help from the U.S. Supreme Court. It is both statistically and legally unlikely the high court will take the case.

Here’s how the Department of Justice summed up the underlying facts:

Rafiekian . . . along with . . . Alptekin . . . a Turkish national with close ties to the highest levels of the Government of Turkey, were involved in a conspiracy to act covertly within the U.S. on instructions from the Turkish government. The plot included using the services of the Flynn Intel Group (FIG), a company founded by Rafiekian and retired General Michael T. Flynn, to publicly and privately influence U.S. politicians and public opinion against a Turkish national, Fethullah Gülen , who is an imam, writer and political figure living in the U.S. Since 2015, the Government of Turkey has filed multiple extradition requests for Gülen in an effort to convince the U.S. government to extradite Gulen to Turkey.

The U.S. government has declined to extradite Gülen, who reportedly remains in the U.S. in a town north of Allenton, Pa. Per the DOJ:

According to court documents, the purpose of the conspiracy was to use FIG to delegitimize Gulen in the eyes of the American public and U.S. politicians, with the goal of obtaining his extradition, which was meeting resistance at the U.S. Department of Justice. At the same time, the conspirators sought to conceal that the Government of Turkey was directing the work. However, not only was Rafiekian told by Alptekin that Turkish cabinet-level officials had approved the budget for the project, but Alptekin also told Rafiekian and Flynn during the project that he was providing the Turkish officials updates on the work. Rafiekian understood that Alptekin was relaying the Turkish officials’ directions on the work to Rafiekian, Flynn, and others at FIG. During a September 2016 meeting in New York City organized by Alptekin, Rafiekian personally met with Turkish officials and heard them express their desire for Gulen’s extradition, an objective he then pursued using FIG’s personnel and connections.

As Law&Crime previously noted, the alleged smear campaign was called “Project Truth.” Flynn wrote an anti-Gülen piece for The Hill on Election Day in 2016 describing Gülen as a “radical cleric.” Prosecutors said the tome was effectively ghostwritten by handlers with ties to Turkey. Flynn admitted he lied about the dealings when pleading guilty to his own charges under the Mueller probe; however, Donald Trump’s Department of Justice clawed back the case prior to sentencing and moved to dismiss the charges against Flynn. Before the judge ruled, Trump pardoned Flynn.

Rafiekian, a former Flynn business associate who after the 2016 election was appointed to Trump’s transition team, reportedly advised Trump on who he should select as “director of national intelligence,” the head of “the CIA,” and “other top officials,” The Associated Press reported in 2017. More specifically, he “helped scrutinize then-Rep. Mike Pompeo before he was named Trump’s CIA director,” the AP said.

Read the Fourth Circuit’s order refusing to hear the Rafiekian case en banc below:

US v RAFIEKIAN by Law&Crime on Scribd

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he should be and lose his pensions which as we know he works and is paid enough by russians to make those nothing....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michael-flynn-could-face-court-martial-for-myanmar-coup-remark-ex-trump-official/ar-AAKzkEK


Michael Flynn Could Face Court Martial for Myanmar Coup Remark: Ex–Trump Official


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Lt. Col. Yevgeny "Eugene" Vindman, an Army officer who was fired by the Trump White House, has said Trump's former national adviser Michael Flynn could face a court-martial over his remark that a Myanmar-like military coup "should happen" in the U.S.

a man standing in front of a crowd: Former General Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump’s pardoned national security adviser, speaks during a protest of the outcome of the 2020 presidential election outside the Supreme Court on December 12, 2020 in Washington, DC.© Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images Former General Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump’s pardoned national security adviser, speaks during a protest of the outcome of the 2020 presidential election outside the Supreme Court on December 12, 2020 in Washington, DC.
"I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can't happen here?" an attendee asked Flynn during a Q&A session at a conference called the "For God & Country Patriot Roundup" in Dallas, Texas, on Sunday.

"No reason. I mean, it should happen here," Flynn responded, to cheers from the crowd.

With these seditious remarks Comrade Flynn may have crossed the line for recall to active duty and court-martial. As a JAG I’m qualified and also happy to prosecute this case. https://t.co/7gAM2TlG8D P.S. US mil would NEVER support this. We love America.

— Yevgeny (Eugene) Vindman (@YVindman) May 31, 2021
In a tweet on Monday, Vindman branded Flynn's remarks "seditious."

"With these seditious remarks Comrade Flynn may have crossed the line for recall to active duty and court-martial," he wrote on his personal Twitter account.

As a member of the U.S. Army's legal arm, Vindman said he was "qualified and also happy to prosecute this case."

He added: "P.S. US mil would NEVER support this. We love America." Vindman declined to comment further when contacted by Newsweek.

Steve Vladeck, a professor at the University of Texas School of Law, noted that Flynn is still subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice as a retired Army officer.

"The constitutionality of jurisdiction over retirees for post-retirement offenses is something we're currently challenging in the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces & the D.C. Circuit," he tweeted.

Yes, Flynn’s still subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice as a retired Army officer. The constitutionality of jurisdiction over retirees for post-retirement offenses is something we’re currently challenging in the Court of Appeals for the Armed Forces & the D.C. Circuit. https://t.co/RQThYguIP1

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) May 30, 2021
Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his dealings with Russia's ambassador before Trump took office, but was pardoned in the final months of Trump's presidency.


Vindman, on the other hand, was ousted from his role as the National Security Council's deputy legal advisor after he raised concerns about Trump's phone call with Ukraine's president in July 2019.

His twin brother Alexander Vindman, who also served on the NSC, was a key witness in the Democrats' impeachment inquiry into Trump's dealings with Ukraine.

Both brothers were fired from the NSC shortly after the Senate voted to acquit Trump following an impeachment trial and escorted out of the White House.

Alexander Vindman retired from the Army last year and said he had been subjected to a campaign of bullying and retaliation, but his brother stayed in the military.

Last summer, Yevgeny Vindman filed a federal complaint alleging he faced retaliation from Trump and White House officials for reporting the former president's actions. Politico reported in March that he is set to be promoted to full colonel, despite attempts by Trump loyalists to derail his career.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a friggen freak of nature. How did this ultra low level non thinker so deplorable become a general. Thus is disgusting.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One religion? Really?

https://news.yahoo.com/former-trump-national-security-adviser-054202675.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2022 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poor baby, convicted Putin lover crying that he should give the money back for his treason...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/11/2097357/-Ex-Trump-adviser-Michael-Flynn-whines-about-DOD-s-bid-to-seize-blood-money-Putin-gave-him?pm_source=story_sidebar&pm_medium=web&pm_campaign=recommended


Ex-Trump adviser Michael Flynn whines about DOD's bid to seize blood money Putin gave him


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Michael Flynn served in the Trump administration for approximately as long as it takes Donald Trump’s languorous, M.C. Escher-like grotesquerie of a colon to pass a Happy Meal. He was our country’s national security adviser for about three weeks in early 2017, during which time he did his level best to make Vladimir Putin’s dewiest wet dreams come true.

He was famously fired—by Trump himself—after he falsely denied discussing sanctions with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak prior to Trump taking office. According to The Washington Post, the discussions were “interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election.”

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In other words, he cozied up to the murderous Putin regime and was likely dangling sanctions relief in an effort to quickly pay back Putin’s support of Trump and Russia’s financial backing of Flynn himself.

So you’d think someone who’d literally received payments from Dipshit Hitler before attempting to make sketchy backroom deals with a tyrannical, rapacious regime that now threatens all of Europe and, for that matter, the world, might be just a touch reticent about those payments.

Ah, but then you don’t know MAGA, which feeds on fake outrages like Matt Gaetz’s Venmo dates nosh dinosaur-shaped chicken nuggets with ketchup.

Michael Flynn, the disgraced former national security adviser under Donald Trump, has criticized the U.S. Army for attempting to retrieve nearly $40,000 he received from Russia in 2015.

Retired Lt. Gen. Flynn, who was convicted of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia before being pardoned by Trump, accused the Department of Defense of trying to "embarrass" him by trying to get money he was paid by the Kremlin.

In a May 2 letter, the Army said Flynn may have violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution—which states that no person holding office can accept a gift from a foreign state—after he was paid by state-controlled television network Russia Today to attend a gala in December 2015.

Again, this is the same Russia that’s currently doing its best shitfaced Godzilla impression up and down Ukraine’s Donbas region … the same characters who pounded an entire city of 400,000-plus innocent souls into rubble … and the same yawning assholes who keep scaring us shitless with vague threats of nuclear winter.

But sure, the real outrage is Michael Flynn being forced to cough up the money Russia paid him for sitting next to Vladimir Putin at a gala. (By the way, 2016 election spoiler Jill Stein was there, too.)


FLYNN: “I’m not surprised at the snarkiness, at the evil that exists inside of our government right now, particularly the national security state, which has overcome the military-industrial complex by far, head and shoulders above, now. They are trying to run this country. And they don’t like people like me because they know that … they do not want me coming back into government in any capacity, because they know that I know how they operate, and they know exactly what I would have done had I stayed in much longer as a national security advisor to then Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. And, you know, so they had to get rid of me very quickly.”

Maybe they don’t want him back in government because he’s a smidge beholden to our biggest geopolitical enemy and, well, was literally working for Turkey while he was a top adviser to Trump’s campaign? And because he didn’t tell anyone about it until March 2017, even though he was required by law to register as a foreign agent?

“So I’m not surprised at this. It’s just another dig, another means to embarrass, another way that they just want me to shut up. And I’m not about to, it’s not in my nature. I’m not designed that way, and I will tell you that it actually stiffens my backbone even more, because at the end of the day, they’re just going to reach into my retirement, and they’re going to take some money out. Money that—yeah, it means something, but at the end of the day this country means a heck of a lot more than what they will do to me, and it ought to be a sign to everybody, to all your listeners, everybody that watches this show and everybody that will see it in other means on social media and in podcasts.”

Yeah, I’m sure “this country” does mean a heck of a lot more to him than any punishment he might receive. He’s still talking about Russia, right?

[...] “So with me standing up and doing what I’m doing, I hope that it encourages at least one other person. That’s really all I’m looking for. I’m looking for that one person who’s willing to stand up, step up, and speak up and do the kinds of things that we need to do to rescue this country from this persecution we’re all going through, which is a slide towards communism and Marxism. It really is. We can’t kid ourselves anymore.”

For fuck’s sake. Just give the money back, Generalissimo. For some reason, I doubt the victims of the Bucha massacre will feel much sympathy for you or your made-up plight. Of course, a real human with an actual conscience wouldn’t hesitate to return Putin’s blood money. But being MAGA means never having to say you’re sorry—even (or, rather, especially) when you’re guilty as fuck.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/made-controversy-michael-flynns-unmasking-collapses-rcna31593?cid=eml_mra_20220602&user_email=e73377d3e40790eecbf6a99203e1476ea2a23c644c2045abd739b8f9e629a73b


The made-up controversy over Michael Flynn’s unmasking collapses


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Donald Trump spent a ridiculous amount of time trying to convince the public that there was a genuine controversy surrounding Obama-era “unmaskings,” at one point describing it as a “massive” scandal. The former president’s Republican allies did their best to boost the public-relations offensive.

Then-Rep. Devin Nunes, for example, the year before his resignation, was an aggressive proponent of the story. Sen. Rand Paul insisted the story had produced “smoking gun” evidence that officials “spied on” the Trump campaign. Sen. John Cornyn went so far as to suggest earlier this year that the matter is “bigger than Watergate.”

They were all completely, demonstrably, and unambiguously wrong. BuzzFeed reported:

A Justice Department probe found that members of the Obama administration did not seek to reveal the identity of Michael Flynn “for political purposes or other inappropriate reasons,” a newly disclosed report reveals. The document details the results of a monthslong investigation into the so-called unmasking of Flynn, who briefly served as national security adviser to then-president Donald Trump before he resigned in February 2017 in the wake of the revelation that he had lied about phone conversations he held with Russia’s ambassador to the US.

I have a hunch readers may need a refresher on the details, so let’s revisit our earlier coverage and take a stroll down memory lane.

It was two years ago this week when then-Attorney General Bill Barr made a provocative announcement: Barr told Fox News that John Bash, the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney in the Western District of Texas, would closely examine Obama-era “unmasking” practices, specifically with Flynn in mind.

Even at the time, it was clearly a pointless exercise: In national security circles, “unmasking” is a routine development in which U.S. officials examine intelligence intercepts involving people abroad, and uncover the names of Americans who appear in those reports. All of this, of course, became more notable in the wake of the controversy surrounding Flynn — a former foreign agent who was in communications with Russia before starting his stint in the West Wing as Trump’s national security advisor.

Broadly speaking, Team Trump made a couple of claims. The first was that the interception of Flynn’s communications with Russia was proof that the Obama White House “spied on” the incoming Republican administration. This never made any sense: U.S. intelligence was spying on Russian officials. Flynn was caught up in intercepted messages because of his private interactions with Putin’s government.

The second was that the Obama White House targeted Flynn as part of some kind of partisan political scheme.

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The nature of this alleged partisan political scheme never made any sense — even the right’s most enthusiastic conspiracy theorists have struggled to articulate exactly what the Democratic administration allegedly did and why — and Barr’s handpicked, Trump-appointed Texas prosecutor determined that no one in the Obama White House did anything wrong.

Indeed, the only person who actually did something wrong was Flynn: He lied to the FBI about his covert communications with Russia. (Flynn later pleaded guilty, twice, before changing his mind, and ultimately receiving a corrupt pardon from Trump.)

To be sure, much of this has been well documented for quite some time, but the BuzzFeed article, bringing into the light the detailed, previously classified findings of Team Trump’s own handpicked investigator, represents “a resounding rejection“ of the conspiracy theories Americans were told to believe.

It’s unlikely that this will stop the former president from peddling the discredited claims anyway — Trump’s relationship with reality is badly broken — but now nevertheless seems like an excellent time for some accountability.

Is Rand Paul prepared to admit the “smoking gun” evidence he was so excited about in 2017 wasn’t real? Is John Cornyn going to acknowledge that his “bigger than Watergate” claims from 2020 were spectacularly wrong?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a delusion idiot, if the military does not do something about this moron it infers to me that this is a typical general who was head of national security... WTF.... what a moron....

https://news.yahoo.com/inside-unhinged-oval-office-meeting-223126137.html


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Inside the 'unhinged' Oval Office meeting that divided Trump's orbit before the Jan. 6 attack


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ASHINGTON — An extraordinary meeting in Donald Trump's White House less than three weeks before the Jan. 6, 2021 U.S. Capitol attack exploded into screaming, shouting and threats.

Competing factions were at each other's throats vying for the former president's attention — and decision-making power.

Trump's White House legal team told him – repeatedly – he'd lost the election to Joe Biden. But a group of outside advisors led by attorney Sidney Powell fed the president outlandish theories about foreign influence over voting machines and proposed the immediate mass seizure of disputed machines by the U.S. military.

The plan was never carried out, but it was clear which side won over Trump. After the meeting, at 1:42 a.m. the next morning, Trump tweeted: "Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild."

The blowup among Trump advisors at the unplanned gathering was one of the key revelations that emerged Tuesday in the seventh hearing of a House Committee investigating the Capitol insurrection.

"The meeting has been called unhinged, not normal and the craziest meeting of the Trump presidency," said committee member Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md. "For all its absurdity," he added, the meeting proved significant because Trump watched his White House lawyers for hours as they "destroyed the baseless factual claims and ridiculous legal arguments" that Powell and others put forward.

"President Trump now knew all these claims were nonsense," he said.

Here's how the meeting unfolded:

The three outside advisors who arrived without an appointment
Powell showed up at the White House on the evening of Dec. 18, unannounced and without an appointment. She was joined by former national security adviser Michael Flynn, a retired lieutenant general, and Patrick Byrne, a Trump ally and former CEO of Overstock.com.

The trio was granted access into the White House by a junior staffer, according to Raskin, and they made their way to the Oval Office.

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The meeting lasted six hours, starting in the Oval Office, meandering through the West Wing and spilling into Trump's private residence in the White House.

A video of deposition by lawyer Sidney Powell is shown during a full committee hearing on "the January 6th Investigation," on Capitol Hill on July 12, 2022.
A video of deposition by lawyer Sidney Powell is shown during a full committee hearing on "the January 6th Investigation," on Capitol Hill on July 12, 2022.
'A land speed record': White House legal team wanted Powell out
Powell told the committee that it took only 10 to 15 minutes of her crew talking to Trump in the Oval Office before White House attorney Pat Cipollone and others showed up and attempted to break up the meeting

"I bet Pat Cipollone set a new land speed record," Powell said in a videotaped deposition.

Cipollone said he was "not happy" to see Powell and Flynn, and he didn't know Byrne.

"The first thing I did, I walked in, I looked at him, and I said, 'Who are you?'" Cipollone said. "I don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice. So I didn't understand how they had gotten in."



Former Trump White House attorney Eric Herschmann said Powell and others told Trump that Democrats worked with Venezuela to rig voting machines.

At one point, Flynn took out a diagram claiming communications from individuals across the world about rigged voting machines. He said Flynn also made "some comment about nest thermostats being hooked up to the internet."

Flynn cited his 5th Amendment rights when asked by the committee about the meeting.

"It was not a casual meeting," said Derek Lyons, a former White House staff secretary. "At times, people were shouting at each other, hurling insults at each other."

'Where is the evidence?': The fighting builds
Powell told the committee that Cipollone and Herschmann "showed nothing but disdain and contempt for the president."

"If it had been me sitting in his chair, I would have had all of them fired that night and had them escorted out of the building."

Cipollone said Powell, Flynn and Byrne started "really verbally attacking" himself and Herschmann.

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[b]"We were asking one simple question as a general matter: Where is the evidence?" Cipollone said.

He said Powell and others had a "general disregard" for the importance of backing up wild claims.


A committee exhibit showing Eric Herschmann, former Trump White House adviser, as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol continues to reveal its findings of a year-long investigation, at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, June 23, 2022.
A committee exhibit showing Eric Herschmann, former Trump White House adviser, as the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol continues to reveal its findings of a year-long investigation, at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, June 23, 2022.
Herschmann said Powell decried "corrupt judges" to explain how Trump lost every one of his legal challenges nationwide seeking to overturn election results.

"I was like, 'Every one?'" Herschmann said. "'Every single case that you've guys have done in the country, you guys lost. Every one of them is corrupt? Even the ones we appointed?'"

He added: "I'm being nice. I was much more harsh to her."

A divided inner circle scatters throughout the White House
The meeting continued continued into the night, ending past midnight.

"It got to the point where the screaming was completely out there," Herschmann said. "What they were proposing, I thought was nuts."

Herschmann said Fynn kept standing up and calling him "a quitter."

"At some point, I had it with him. So, I yelled back, 'Either come over or sit your effing ass back down.'"
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