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mac



Joined: 07 Mar 1999
Posts: 17776
Location: Berkeley, California

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Poinster, I was going to say yes... My main point has been, you can't call Obama racial slurs and then say you're down with polite dialogue. I have also been called many names by Isobars and mrgybe, and respond in kind--or raise the ante.

It is fine to disagree with anyone, including Obama, by stating "I think (such and such a policy is a mistake) because.... It is called a thesis statement and my fourth graders are learning it. I would welcome such on the forum.

Cheney isn't Darth Vader--just an un-indicted felon. Laughing
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nw30



Joined: 21 Dec 2008
Posts: 6485
Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mac wrote:
Well Poinster, I was going to say yes... My main point has been, you can't call Obama racial slurs and then say you're down with polite dialogue. I have also been called many names by Isobars and mrgybe, and respond in kind--or raise the ante.


You'd make Obama very proud, what what it he said, oh yeah, something like "if he brings a knife to a fight, then you bring a gun".
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keycocker



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Posts: 3598

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B&b is offended that Mac calls him an ignorant racist bigot.
I agree with BB. He should not have to put up that if it isn't true.
BB decides to say a bigoted racial epithet any time Mac accuses him of being a racist in order to prove he is really a reasonable polite conservative.
Uhh.......
Might want rethink that.
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GURGLETROUSERS



Joined: 30 Dec 2009
Posts: 2643

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes K.C., but the relevant point to me is intent. Did B.B. intend it as a racist remark, or as a comical name, which tickled his fancy? B.B., like many I know, may just be using words in a way which he doesn't see as wrong; just faintly amusing.

One of the sad aspects of todays extreme political correctness is that there is a rampant 'take offence industry' and boy, are THEY viscious!

An obvious case from over here. A primary school youngster asked an innocent question of a coloured (brown) boy in the school playground, 'Are you from Africa?'

Clearly I would say, (after reading of his 'interrogation') there was no intent to demean or insult, yet a complaint had been made, and heavy handed 'official' action was taken against him, including his name being placed on a 'racial hate register.'

I'm entitled to ask. a) whatever is happening to common sense? and b) who are the REAL haters when an inquisitive 8 year old just asks an innocent question, and is treated as a criminal?
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beaglebuddy



Joined: 10 Feb 2012
Posts: 1120

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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pueno



Joined: 03 Mar 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:
The facts, even as presented by the far left media once it's too big to ignore, prove beyond any doubt or defense that this president has lied about many very important issues on scores of occasions. It's important to make sure the three BSNBC viewers who vote know that, and calling his outright, often scripted, proved lies "misstatements" is not simply just stupid PC but more lies in many instances. Covering this up contributed to four more years of the same.

I happen to like and respect Cheney, but I've seen rumors he went way overboard; if the misunderstanding is mine, I want to know about it. But that requires proof, not name-calling.

I suspect there is some truth, technically, in calling oil CO's a cabal, in that they probably collude behind the scenes to manipulate prices. But calling them that simply because they profit from an indispensable product is just stupid.

NW seems obviously intelligent, thus stating he is a nitwit is baseless ad hominem at its best and clearly reflects only on the accuser. That's what's ostensibly banned here (BWAHAHAHA), yet remains the most egregious, lowlife, frequent, outright shiddy behavior we have.

As discussed here years ago real time, Fluke's own testimony implied she had and/or supported having sex an average of three times a day with multiple partners. That's beyond slut in any dictionary I've ever seen. Just one example is Wikipedia: "Slut or slattern is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous". What is the word for "slut squared"?


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boggsman1



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poinster...thank you for trying to inject a little civility and reason. Unfortunately, the ring leader of the right here, ruined your attempt on the very next post.
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pointster



Joined: 22 Jul 2010
Posts: 376

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I wasn't clear when I cited statements about Cheney, Fluke, Obama, etc. I wasn't commenting on the truth of those assertions, but rather using them as examples of the kind of personal attacks that we would suspend for a week. So we can talk about energy policy without calling oil executive evil, contraceptive coverage without calling Fluke a slut, border security without calling Obama a liar.

We can also be accountable for our own statements, and not use another poster's perceived racist comment or personal slight as license to engage in name-calling.

Those who are willing to abandon self-righteousness for a week could try setting a good example of civility, rather than engaging in censure.

What say? Just a week, until the 29th, then a return to macho smackdown, if that's what you want.
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keycocker



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GT,
When I use a white supremacist racial slur by mistake I say sorry and make a note of it.
It is a mistake. I do not threaten to repeat it over and over.
That is not a mistake , it is using my new bigoted expression in full knowledge of its meaning.
BB recently said he wanted ALL Muslims to kill each other.
He hates them.
Was that an error in using the wrong word.?
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beaglebuddy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are muslims a race?
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