"real" weights of boards

whitevan01 · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 607

when board weights are given by a manufacturer are they including footstraps?

also, if the board has a daggerboard/centerboard, do you think they include that in the weight of a board?

thanks.

human_catapult · Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 374

Everyone knows that manufacturers lie about the weights and use airbrushes. Opening a brochure is like reading PlayBoard Magazine.

LeeD · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175

Don't know about "lie" about weights, but I've been in the industry for over 23 years.........
All board weights...... NO straps, screws, fins, mast bases, pads, glue, or
extra H20.
No cassettes, daggers, or extra lead weights, NOT including your weight or calculated weights based on Moon's gravity.
Not accounting for lead footstraps or padz made from your bedroom comforter.
Good paint jobs account for as much as TWO pounds.
On another note, a 9 lbs slalom board is a headache to ride everyday, longer than 2 hours, or when you're slightly off on any part of the equation.
Of course, anything over 18lbs is a pain in planing conditions.

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

OTOH, when I'm considering buying a demo or pre-owned board, it's very reassuring to find one that, even with straps and pads, weighs less on a good digital scale than the magazines claim it weighed new.

\m/

LeeD · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175

Definetely reassuring, but still you gotta do the visual and tap'ing inspection with a fine toothed comb.
Some guys sell their leaky boards after storing/spinning for extreme lengths of time, some weights misleading.
Seems bigger, heavier riders tend to favor lightweight to superlight boards.
Seems lightweights appreciate lighterweight boards, but don't need them to plane up early or go reasonably fast.
I'm in between (145lbs.), and like lightweight (13lbs with straps and fin) Zlabs sometimes, but ride 16lbs'ers about as often.
For sure lighter planes waay earlier (think bicycles), and can be faster sometimes, but comfort and easy sometimes favor heavier gear, and easy sometimes translates to faster ......

whitevan01 · Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 607

the reason I asked is that Exocet claims that the Pacer 300 weighs 33 lbs. I just put mine on a scale (with footstraps and daggerboard installed) and the scale said just about 40 lbs.

should I freak out?

Dennis

LeeD · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175

Why not remove the hardware and weigh?
Each strap weighs at least one lbs., and how many screws per?
Weigh dagger, maybe 3 lbs alone.
Weigh fin.
Mast track?
Cassette?
Padz?
Glue?
Wet with recent drowning or bone dry?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

LeeD · Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175

Kinda like pointing two different bicycles (pedaling prohibited) downhill, one heavy, one light, and HEAVIER gets going faster and earlier, eh?
But pumping has to be included, as does pedalling, and lighter makes pumping worth about 3mph more wind than statueing like a lead weight.
And big pro windsurfers pump better than little amateur windsurfers, right?
And little competent windsurfers can pump better, for their weight, than even some big pro windsurfers, you think?
Based on my sailing years with DonMontague, Robbie and some other's.
I'm a proponent for pumping because it's great exercise, I'm getting old, and I like the range it gives me with a given sized sail. Seems with a good 5.2 and lightweight 85 liter board, the same one, I can be planing in winds from 16mph to around 30, with no real alarm. That seems like a good range for Berkeley.

bred2shred · Joined: 02 May 2000 Posts: 989 Location: Jersey Shore