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PM10080717
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: Strongest RDM (and breaks?) |
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What is the poll on the strongest RDM's, and what's with the breaking Gulf Techs? |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Only Nolimitz has demonstrated its mast's capability of touching its tip to its base, but impact and crush resistance are also important. Maybe the latter explains the alleged Gulftech problem; its walls are thinner.
Now, about this Gulftech mast breakage problem: it's news to me, and my nuke mast is a Gulftech (at 11 feet, it feels weightless). Tell or point me to more info about this problem, please, 'cause rescues in nuke conditions are sometimes just not feasible.
Mike \m/ |
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slayer666
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 41
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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After breaking my 5 years old 400cm Powerex Z-wave earlier this year, I went RDM. I got a Powerex RDM 100 which I broke twice, both times after 4 sessions. First time hit a rock in the break (no luck), second time snapped out of nowhere way outside. They got replaced under warranty.
In the meantime I got an Ezzy-NoLimitz (made in USA) which seem to hold on.
Your pick :
- I have bad luck
- Powerex Chinese made masts are not reliable
- RDMs are incompatible with my North wave sails |
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PM10080717
Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | Tell or point me to more info about this problem, please, 'cause rescues in nuke conditions are sometimes just not feasible.
Mike \m/ |
Ah, it's a China issue. That's all I will say. They are having issues with long things? (ceilings too low?). |
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89Spring
Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 241
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: |
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If you can bend a mast basically in half touching tip to base, to me this has nothing to do with strength. This to me seems like a very soft mast sort of like a piece of string cheese |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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It's a 25MCS CC mast, the same stiffness you use. And it wasn't a person - sure as heck not me -- that bent one into a circle. The point of the demonstration was that they won't often break when surf drives the tip into the ocean floor.
Mike \m/ |
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laci
Joined: 22 May 1996 Posts: 180 Location: SoCal&the Gorge
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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A friend of mine had an older Nolimitz RDM laying on the beach at the Hatch last week, with a 5.2 rigged on it. All of a sudden we heard a loud POP. The mast spontaineously snapped, a foot or so above the bottom of the top section. No warning. Clean break. The sail was OK. We all went WTF! Might have had previous impact damage at that point, no way to know. |
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LeeD
Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 1175
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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With lots of experience, we've seen that happen to well over 30 windsurfing masts.
The beach is a tough test for windsurfing masts
Heat, previous damage, dark luff sleeve, extreme mast bend sail styles, and many more things can contribute to a beach breaking a mast.
The peeps that went ..."WTheF" were just surprised or not experienced.
Heck, it even happenned to me a month ago! |
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keycocker
Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 3598
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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Trivial knock on the side of any carbon spar can be both invisible and fatal to the integrity. This is widely noted in all uses of carbon fibers. In the early days the wisest Euros refused to sail carbon masts esp in big winds or waves. They only changed over when glass masts stopped being made kinda like in the States with cambered sails. |
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89Spring
Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 241
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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isobars wrote: | It's a 25MCS CC mast, the same stiffness you use. And it wasn't a person - sure as heck not me -- that bent one into a circle. The point of the demonstration was that they won't often break when surf drives the tip into the ocean floor.
Mike \m/ |
Dude you have no idea how strong I am. I think you took it a little too literally. I got the idea and I still would say that would be a soft mast. |
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