Global cooling

mac · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject:

Techno--granted. I installed passive solar in a previous house, with a previous set of tax incentives, and it was very cost-effective. The current solar applications for electricity become cost effective only with a fairly substantial electricity use. They don't make sense for me. There is a larger issue, which is what can be done with the excess energy--right now you can't put it back into the system.

So for most people, it is conservation--insulation in houses, lower energy using electronic devices, more efficient cars--that is most cost-effective. Most of California's gains in efficiency are from those measures. However, the cost of solar collector devices have come down dramatically, and the efficiency of batteries continues to increase rapidly. At some point, given a return to the higher prices of crude of the Bush years, solar will make sense. So the relatively small subsidies of the last six years have made sense in pushing the technology more rapidly. Most people used to accept that this was a valid function of the government. Of course, most people used to accept science.

nw30 · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:18 pm Post subject:

mac · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:39 pm Post subject:

Are you one of the Catholics that picks and chooses what to hear from the Pope? Or are you a climatologist? Did you have something to add?

uwindsurf · Joined: 18 Aug 2012 Posts: 968 Location: Classified

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

Why should issues of faith be exempted from free speech? If you exempt faith from free speech, where does the slippery slope end?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

There are plenty of right wing preper's who have huge solar panels in preparation of the end of the world. The solar panels run their Talapia ponds, A/C, Fridges, water purification, and lights. They are the ultimate conservationists. (Ironically)

I almost bought an off-the-grid house on Maui. Huelo has some of the most amazing off grid homes. I was younger then, and am very glad that I didn't make this mistake. It is not as practical....as long as we have cheap energy in abundance. Cool

mac · Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:08 pm Post subject:

Perhaps mrgybe's secret identity has been revealed?

isobars · Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935

One would think an AGW thread would have died now that satellite data can find no global warming in the past 15 years, 3 three months.

Oh, crap ... here comes the SOTU address. Click! GONE! Sorry, but I do not want to hear about his plans to force people who EARN more money than I do to give me more of their money simply because I EARN less than they do. What part of the word, EARN does this socialist idiot not understand?

nw30 · Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:24 am Post subject:

Hea, according to the SOTU show, AGW is a bigger threat to our safety than ISIS, we are going to burn up before we get shot or beheaded, so lighten up!

LHDR · Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 528