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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Real Life Antarctica Sea Ice Not Cooperating With Global Warming Hoax
Cultural Limits
05/13/2015
In yet ANOTHER case of the “experts” were oh, so wrong, it seems that the research stations in Antarctica are in danger of being stranded due to the presence of too much sea ice. From The Guardian:
Sea ice around Antarctica is currently at record levels for May, part of a trend of increasing ice around the frozen continent making it harder to resupply and refuel research stations….
Rod Wooding, from the Australian Antarctic Division, said last year ships “couldn’t get anywhere near” the Australian research site, Mawson station, requiring a year’s worth of supplies and fuel to be flown in by helicopter.
“[That] is inadequate for the long-term sustainability of the station,” Wooding said. “Other national programs have had similar problems, the French in particular, the Japanese also.”
Whoops. It seems that the forecasters didn’t see this coming, because according to all the climate models all that sea ice was supposed to be gone by now, or at the very least, thinning as a number of scientific papers posited in the last year.
The current theory on why there is so much sea ice in Antarctica when CLEARLY there shouldn’t be per Global Warming, is that there was a change in wind patterns or something. Wouldn’t be that it’s been colder on this planet of late, would it? Well, according to the “experts” there’s an explanation for that, too.
Tony Worby, the chief executive of the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre said, “Those changes of wind are driven by the depletion of ozone in the stratosphere and the increasing greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.”
The El Nino phenomenon, too, “drives changes in pressure which drives changes in wind which drives changes in sea ice”, he said.
Oh, that’s right, it’s an El Niño year. (Wrote about that yesterday. “Is 2015 FINALLY an El Niño Year?” The answer is yes.) As Matt Vespa over at Townhall put it, you mean this is a natural phenomenon???? Gee, imagine that. There’s a record amount of sea ice in an El Niño year – just like the other El Niño years. More greenhouse gases have been blamed on human activity, but so far, no scientist, researcher or climate change “expert” has been able to pin El Niño or his sister La Niña on people.
There are a number of scientists gathered in Hobart in Tasmania this week to discuss better sea ice predicting because at this point, the only way to get to the research stations is via helicopter and that is just too expensive for maintaining the global warming research facilities in Antarctica long term. Plus, the Antarctic researchers want to avoid the debacle of the Akademik Shokalskiy, the research vessel caught in a sudden freeze in December 2013.
Given that the other end of the earth – the Arctic circle – also is seeing record ice in a less than active period of hurricanes and tornadoes, maybe the lack of cooperation from Mother Nature and the sea ice in Antarctica is trying to tell the climate change movement something that would impact us more than anything else they could do: give it up.
http://dcgazette.com/real-life-antarctica-sea-ice-not-cooperating-with-global-warming-hoax/# |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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NW doesn't seem to understand the difference between the north and south poles.
Average temperature in Antarctica, at sea leverl, from the British Antarctic Survey:
Quote: | Around the coasts of Antarctica, temperatures are generally close to freezing in the summer (December–February) months, or even slightly positive in the northern part of the Antarctic Peninsula. During winter, monthly mean temperatures at coastal stations are between −10°C and −30°C but temperatures may briefly rise towards freezing when winter storms bring warm air towards the Antarctic coast. |
For the Arctic:
Quote: | The average Arctic winter temperature is -30° F (-34°C), while the average Arctic summer temperature is 37-54° F (3-12° C). In general, Arctic winters are long and cold while summers are short and cool.
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Thus we can expect seasonal melting of sea ice in the Arctic, but not in the Antarctic.
Pretty funny. |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:20 am Post subject: |
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mac wrote: | NW doesn't seem to understand the difference between the north and south poles.
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That's quite the desperate stretch on your part to make something out of thin air.
We both posted articles on Antarctica, that happen to conflict with each other about ice, so that is what you came up with as a retort, quite bazaar, but classic mac.
ISIS has a much better chance at screwing up this world than the sun could ever hope to. Yet Obama considers the sun as being our biggest threat. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 11:48 am Post subject: |
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The only thing about NW that amuses me is how he signs up for brainwashing without giving any thought to what corporations are pumping the soap suds into his head. Your web sites reveal you. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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NW30,
Here's a little bit more about the author of the article you posted.
"Cultural Limits
A resident of Flyover Country, Cultural Limits is a rare creature in American Conservatism - committed to not just small government, Christianity and traditional social roles, but non-profits and high arts and culture. Watching politics, observing human behavior and writing are all long-time interests. CL is a regular contributor to The Constitution Club group blog, and writes on her religious blog, Beyond Sodality, from time to time. In religion, CL is Catholic; in work, the jill of all trades when it comes to fundraising software manipulation and event planning; in play, a classically trained soprano and proud citizen of Cardinal Nation, although, during hockey season, Bleeds Blue. She lives in the Mid-Mississippi River Valley with family and two cute and charming tyrants...make that toy dogs." |
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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When you guys don't like opposing facts, you go after the source, classic, cheap, and very worn out. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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When you have neither the facts nor a clue, you post something from a lunatic that is lying to you. Not surprising. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Opposing facts? It's more like disinformation. There's a lot of difference between what NASA has given us on their website versus that of Cultural Limits, whoever that is. The only reason I highlighted Cultural Limit's bio, which was offered at the end of the article, was for the laugh. Sorry if you missed the humor in all that. |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17747 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Once a chemist, the pope for some reason wants to support science:
Quote: | From Galileo to genetics, the Roman Catholic Church has danced with science, sometimes in a high-tension tango but more often in a supportive waltz. Pope Francis is about to introduce a new twist: global warming.
The field of genetics was started by a Catholic cleric, Gregor Mendel. Entire aspects of astronomy, including the genesis of the Big Bang theory, began with members of the Catholic clergy. While some religions reject evolution, Catholicism has said for 65 years that it fits with the story of creation.
But when lay people think of the church and science, one thing usually comes to mind: The prosecution of Galileo Galilei for heresy because he insisted that the Earth circled the sun and not the other way around.
The Catholic Church “has got an uneven and not always congenial relationship with science,” said science historian John Heilbron, who wrote a biography of Galileo. But after ticking off some of the advances in science that the church sponsored, the retired University of California Berkeley professor emeritus added, “probably on balance, the Catholic Church’s exchange with what we call science is pretty good.” |
What a dilemma! Waiting to see if mrgybe makes snarky comments about his spiritual leader. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ampulex Dementor: Wasp Discovered in 2014 Turns Cockroaches Into 'Passive Zombies'
The ampulex was one of 139 species discovered in Asia's Greater Mekong region in 2014. It was named after the dementor monsters in the "Harry Potter" book and film series.
Now I see why you believe big government lies Mac. Zombies only votes for D's who offer them birth to death mind and even climate control. |
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