Global cooling

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[GURGLETROUSERS]

The British Met Office has now come out in agreement with the Russian Science Academy. Their Hadley computer centre confirms the onset of a solar cooling phases for much of the Northern Hemisphere, equivalent to that of the winters of the 16 to 17 hundreds 'mini ice age.' They also state, just as the Russian Science Academy claimed, that its effects will (temporarily) outweigh the global warming trend.

The differences in predictions (Russian and met Office) are in the predicted onset, and the duration of the cold spell. Academy claim was imminent (i.e. 5 to 10 years and peaking in 30 years time to last for up to 200 years) and the Met Office prediction is 40 years ahed for full effect, and of less duration.

The I.P.C.C. will ignore both, I expect, since none of their predictions have ever considered the possibility of a cooling phase. (They might lose their funding!)

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[pointster]

GT,

NASA has put into orbit the DSCOVR Satellite which will directly measure the amount of solar energy falling on the earth and the amount radiating back into space. With this satellite, we should, over time, be able to directly correlate atmospheric CO2 with the albedo of the earth.

"DSCOVR is carrying two NASA Earth-observing instruments that will gather a range of measurements from ozone and aerosol amounts, to changes in Earth's radiation budget—the balance between incoming radiation (largely from the sun) and that which is reflected from Earth. This balance affects our climate."

http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/news_archives/DSCOVR_L1_orbit.html

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[GURGLETROUSERS]

Pointster.

I hear what you say, but the key word is EXPECTED rise in temperature. Of course the Met Office is a key player in I.P.C.C. reports, but the fact remains that they have often be forced to downgrade their predictions. It may well be that the 'small' fall in temperature in the Northern Hemisphere would seem to be dwarfed by the concensus predicted rise, but!

Sarah Iveson, the Met Office scientist and lead author of this research, has stated, (quote) 'The research shows that the REGIONAL impacts of a grand solar minimum are likely to be LARGER than the global effect.' (I'm sure she is well aware of the I.P.C.C. consensus predictions, so is choosing her words carefully! Thus she goes on to state that the cooling will not be big enough to override the EXPECTED global warming trend. The Russian Academy did predict it could override the warming effect.

I agree with you that this new satellite should be of major benefit in removing much of the over/under estimation of the present. I assure you, I wish to understand the truth. I.e. What is actually happening?

[isobars]

In the 1950s a belligerent loudmouth named Ancel Keys decided saturated fats caused most heart disease, then traveled the world seeking support for that belief, found some limited and faulty support for his claim, cherry picked it, then declared that sat fat caused heart disease, then forced his claims on related fledgeling agencies through bluster and BS. Every nutrition scientist and physician -- and there were many with credentials far greater than his -- who dared challenge his claims with facts to the contrary was demonized as a denier, denied grants, fired from prestigious academic posts, and banned to the basement.

It took >50 years for them to dig their way out, prove Keys full of shiite, and shift the focus from such innocent foes as sat fat and cholesterol to the REAL culprits: excess carbs and triglycerides. Many doctors STILL haven't gotten that memo.

Sound familiar? If their lives hadn't overlapped so thoroughly, I'd guess that Al Gore is Ancel Keys reincarnated.

[mac]

Well, a 20% chance of a Maunder minimum, with the reports that the possible temperature decline of 0.1 degrees, will be "dwarfed" by the increase in temperature for carbon emissions sure convinces me that I can stop worrying. Right.

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