Global cooling

mac · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject:

NW--did you come up with this silly idea all on your own, or did you get a prompt from Alex Jones? I guess if you can't do basic math you can't even comprehend the difference between first, second, and third order factors. But for someone that knows anything about hydrology and geology, it is a stupid idea, and doubling down on it makes you look even more foolish. But none of that is surprising.

nw30 · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject:

I have no problems with anything you say about me, because I'm hardly not alone with not being willing to ride on your elitist coat tails and beliefs, or anyone else that's just like you. Dean comes to mind right off the top.

Triple down, there is nothing that anyone can do to prevent the ocean levels from rising, that includes growing glaciers all you want.

mac · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject:

Perhaps you need to learn the difference between educated and elitist. Or just continue to seethe with resentment. It's making America a banana republic.

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

mac · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:13 pm Post subject:

Ivanka the purse maker at G-20 and Donald Jr. conspiring with the Russkies? Makes North Korea look sane. Banana Republic, crooks at the helm. Trump's only real interest is steering business to his hotels--where he goes, and requires others to go, ever three days.

At least Obama could golf. Pathetic. America is a laughing stock--and voters like you are the reason.

mrgybe · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 5180

mac · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:06 am Post subject:

It's hard to tell what is most absurd here in gybe's latest screed. Defending sending a shoe and purse designer, who has manufactured materials overseas in sweat shops, to a diplomatic conference? Ignoring the absurd allegation that rivers are causing sea level rise? Or defending Trump's more than 20 golfing trips--so far--to Trump properties where he makes money?

I'll give you that Trump may be a better golfer than Obama, after all, he can't seem to find anything better to do.

Very funny.

MalibuGuru · Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300

According to the report, which has been peer reviewed by administrators, scientists and researchers from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (M.I.T.), and several of America’s leading universities, the data is completely bunk:

In this research report, the most important surface data adjustment issues are identified and past changes in the previously reported historical data are quantified. It was found that each new version of GAST has nearly always exhibited a steeper warming linear trend over its entire history. And, it was nearly always accomplished by systematically removing the previously existing cyclical temperature pattern. This was true for all three entities providing GAST data measurement, NOAA, NASA and Hadley CRU.

As a result, this research sought to validate the current estimates of GAST using the best available relevant data. This included the best documented and understood data sets from the U.S. and elsewhere as well as global data from satellites that provide far more extensive global coverage and are not contaminated by bad siting and urbanization impacts. Satellite data integrity also benefits from having cross checks with Balloon data.

The conclusive findings of this research are that the three GAST data sets are not a valid representation of reality. In fact, the magnitude of their historical data adjustments, that removed their cyclical temperature patterns, are totally inconsistent with published and credible U.S. and other temperature data. Thus, it is impossible to conclude from the three published GAST data sets that recent years have been the warmest ever –despite current claims of record setting warming.

Finally, since GAST data set validity is a necessary condition for EPA’s GHG/CO2 Endangerment Finding, it too is invalidated by these research findings. (Full Abstract Report)
Of course, this won’t stop global climate normalcy deniers from saying it’s all one big conspiracy to destroy the earth. They’ll naturally argue that data adjustments to the temperatures need to be made for a variety of reasons, which is something the report doesn’t dispute. What it does show, however, is that these “adjustments” always prove to be to the upside. Always warmer, never cooler:

Iowa, global warming is bullshit

swchandler · Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588

Come on Bard, why plagiarize other folks' work? You need to be more honest about what you do and where you look for your news and information, particularly when sharing it here.