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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 8:23 am    Post subject: Russiagate Reply with quote

Did Trump and his cronies Illegally interface with Russia before taking office. If so should an independent council be appointed. Does Russia have something on Trump?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-russia-sanctions_us_589d6c69e4b0ab2d2b13e518?&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Morning%20Email%20021017&utm_content=The%20Morning%20Email%20021017+CID_3664cee32f01ecd126a0fd90bff70fea&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House national security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with Moscow’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Donald Trump took office, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.

Citing unnamed current and former U.S. officials, the Post said some senior U.S. officials interpreted the contacts as a “potentially illegal” signal to Russia that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions imposed by the Obama administration in December.

Sources told the New York Times that Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergei Kislyak also discussed plans to combat ISIS.

During the Christmas week conversation, he urged Mr. Kislyak to keep the Russian government from retaliating over the coming sanctions — it was an open secret in Washington that they were in the works — by telling him that whatever the Obama administration did could be undone, said the officials

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how stupid is Flynn, talking to a russian ambassador when he and trump are not in the whitehouse. He is so stupid he lied about what was said obviously. But he is so stupid he forgets that the ambassador of Russia has all his communications recorded by the USA. And Flynn tried to say he did not discuss violating Obama's presidential ordered sanctions for russia acts of cyber war to influence the election.

Again Flynn should be locked up and lose his pensions forever once convicted. He is a traitor if all this is true below. Verified by 9 sources... time to be locked up with the rest of the right wing terrorists. And if Trump was in the loop, time for impeachment, and jail time with the drug and gang criminals..

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BY JAMES HOHMANN
with Breanne Deppisch


THE BIG IDEA: Either the national security adviser misled the vice president, or the vice president knowingly misled the American people.
That’s one takeaway from a fresh scoop by three of my colleagues: Contrary to repeated and categorical denials by Trump officials, Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office.
Their sourcing is solid: Nine current and former officials, who were in senior positions at multiple agencies at the time of the calls.

“Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak were interpreted by some senior U.S. officials as an inappropriate and potentially illegal signal to the Kremlin that it could expect a reprieve from sanctions that were being imposed by the Obama administration in late December to punish Russia for its alleged interference in the 2016 election,” Greg Miller, Adam Entous and Ellen Nakashima report. “Officials said this week that the FBI is continuing to examine Flynn’s communications with Kislyak.”
Selective amnesia: On Wednesday, Flynn denied that he had discussed sanctions with Kislyak. Asked in an interview whether he had ever done so, he twice said, “No” On Thursday, Flynn backed away from the denial. A spokesman said: “While he had no recollection of discussing sanctions, he couldn’t be certain that the topic never came up.”

Flynn spoke with Russia’s ambassador about sanctions during presidential transition
What makes the earlier denials so weird: “Federal officials who have read the transcript of the call were surprised by Mr. Flynn’s comments, since he would have known that American eavesdroppers closely monitor such calls,” notes the New York Times, which confirmed The Post’s reporting.
Several top administration officials went to the mat last month to back up Flynn, but none more so than Mike Pence. “They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia,” the vice president said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Jan. 15. “What I can confirm, having spoken to him about it, is that those conversations that happened to occur around the time that the United States took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions.” Pence then made the more sweeping assertion that there had been no contact between members of Trump’s team and Russia during the campaign.

“Neither of those assertions is consistent with the fuller account of Flynn’s contacts with Kislyak provided by officials who had access to reports from U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies that routinely monitor the communications of Russian diplomats,” Greg, Adam and Ellen write. “All (nine) of those officials said Flynn’s references to the election-related sanctions were explicit. Two of those officials went further, saying that Flynn urged Russia not to overreact to the penalties being imposed by [Obama] … A third official put it more bluntly, saying that either Flynn had misled Pence or that Pence misspoke.”

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first round of reviews by US intelligence agencies and the document about Trump by the former MI6 agent has been verified on many items.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/russian-dossier-on-trump-gaining-credibility-with-law-enforcement/ar-AAmP7aF?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp

Russian dossier on Trump gaining credibility with law enforcement
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CBS News has learned that the 35-page dossier compiled by a former British spy is gaining credibility among law enforcement.  Before he was sworn in as President, Donald Trump dismissed the document, but sources tell CBS News that investigators continue to vet it to see whether there is any truth to the allegations. 
Watch: British diplomat warned John McCain about Russia's Trump intel
At issue is whether the Russian government gathered compromising information on the president during his years of doing business in country as a private citizen. The FBI is leading the investigation but several intelligence agencies are also involved.  Typically an investigation of this scale would involve the sources and methods of the CIA and NSA. CNN first reported the sustained interest in the dossier by the intelligence community.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia gate, Russia gate. Let the hearings begin.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wowowow,,,, breaking now, this traiter Flynn was actually working with the russians before the election too. And the trump people lied and said there were no communications at all. So finally he resigns .. this has to be record setting for draining a swamp. Note trump had the infor from the acting attorney general nearly a month ago that Flynn had done this and trump did not care....

I believe now that they have proved that this was a lie we get a partisan special prosecutor to go after all crimes of trump. He apparently is a communist plant....

Time to find out exactly what people should be going to gitmo and waterboarded if needed to get to the truth. Again I believe if a person believes in death penalties it should be applied to them, if they believe waterboarding is fine, it should be applied to them.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/questions-surround-team-trumps-pre-election-talks-russia?cid=eml_mra_20170213

Questions surround Team Trump’s pre-election talks with Russia
02/13/17 08:30 AM—UPDATED 02/13/17 10:53 AM
By Steve Benen
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White House National Security Advisor Michael Flynn’s alleged talks with Russia in December are the basis for an important ongoing scandal. But the latest revelations also shed light on a separate, parallel controversy that may end up being every bit as important.

As part of its reporting on Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, the Washington Post noted on Friday:
The talks were part of a series of contacts between Flynn and Kislyak that began before the Nov. 8 election and continued during the transition, officials said. [Emphasis added]
A New York Times report added:
[C]urrent and former American officials said that conversation – which took place the day before the Obama administration imposed sanctions on Russia over accusations that it used cyberattacks to help sway the election in Mr. Trump’s favor – ranged far beyond the logistics of a post-inauguration phone call. And they said it was only one in a series of contacts between the two men that began before the election and also included talk of cooperating in the fight against the Islamic State, along with other issues. [Emphasis added]
It’s hard to overstate the significance of this detail, which risks doing real harm to Donald Trump’s White House.

Let’s back up a minute to provide some context.

Practically everyone in both parties now agrees that Russian officials, acting on Vladimir Putin’s orders, launched an espionage operation to undermine the U.S. presidential election in 2016, at least in part to help put Trump in the White House. What’s unclear is whether Team Trump colluded with Moscow during the election crimes.

On Nov. 10, just two days after the U.S. election, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said “there were contacts” between the Russian government and Trump’s campaign team before the U.S. presidential election. In fact, Ryabkov said “quite a few” members of Trump’s team had been “staying in touch with Russian representatives” before Americans cast their ballots.

Trump World have long insisted the opposite was true. Kellyanne Conway, asked if there were pre-election communications between the Republican campaign and Putin’s government, said, “Absolutely not.” She added the conversations “never happened” and any suggestions to the contrary “undermine our democracy.”

Though it’s unclear why the Russian deputy foreign minister would lie about this, Conway wasn’t the only member of Team Trump who emphatically denied the talks. At a pre-inaugural press conference, the president himself said no one from the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia during the campaign.

Those denials are apparently in conflict with the findings of U.S. intelligence agencies.

Why is this so important? Because we’re faced with the very real possibility that a foreign adversary attacked America’s democracy to help put Donald Trump in the Oval Office, and while those attacks were under way, Trump aides were in communications with Putin’s government and then Team Trump repeatedly misled the American public about what transpired.

Based on what’s been reported thus far, that’s precisely what happened.

Postscript: The idea that no one on Team Trump spoke to Putin’s government before the election was already suspect. One of the people Trump singled out as a top foreign policy advisor, Carter Page, had repeated contacts with Moscow during the campaign – right up until Team Trump decided to disown Page and pretend he had no role in the operation.

That said, Michael Flynn is a far more prominent, more powerful, and more influential figure in the president’s orbit. If the White House national security advisor was also engaged in pre-election talks with Putin’s government during the campaign, it’s a qualitatively more important revelation.

Second Postscript: The list of questions for the White House isn’t short, but I’d start with, “What did Trump know about Flynn’s pre-election communications with Russia? When did the president first learn of the back-channel messages? If Trump didn’t know what his top national security advisior was up to for months, what does that say about the president’s ability to lead? And if he did know, why did the president lie to the public?”

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Trump is a communist? I thought he was a Nazi. Or before that a misogynist. A reality TV star. A capitalist. A builder.

No wonder he only sleeps 4 hours a night.

However reports from the Kremlin today are that they are very afraid of Trump. They think he's not going to be friendly to them.

Please oh Baja bunker, enlighten us.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flynn needs to be court marshalled immediately too. His pension to be stopped today.

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/did-the-white-house-ignore-blackmail-warning-about-flynn-876607555603?cid=eml_mda_20170214
Did the White House ignore blackmail warning about Flynn?
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Reports suggest Trump's White House was warned by the DOJ & CIA that Nat'l Security Adviser Michael Flynn may be susceptible to Russian blackmailing, putting his future in the admin. into question.
Indira

http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/-free-agent-conway-has-been-out-of-the-loop-for-months-876811331888?cid=eml_mda_20170214
conway said the day before he had full confidence of the president... she is such a liar. So is the trump administration.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did trump really fire Yates the acting attorney general because she a long time ago told Trump that Flynn was a criminal and Trump who loves to fire people would not fire him.

again is this the real reason for her being fired?

again flynn resigned, he should have been fired. and charged.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did trump really fire Yates the acting attorney general because she a long time ago told Trump that Flynn was a criminal and Trump who loves to fire people would not fire him.

again is this the real reason for her being fired?

again flynn resigned, he should have been fired. and charged.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
So, Trump is a communist? I thought he was a Nazi. Or before that a misogynist. A reality TV star. A capitalist. A builder.

No wonder he only sleeps 4 hours a night.

However reports from the Kremlin today are that they are very afraid of Trump. They think he's not going to be friendly to them.

Please oh Baja bunker, enlighten us.


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