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tstizzle



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread is getting way off topic. back to the point:

koogzah really is a good looking guy.
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kirk



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:22 pm    Post subject: Re:Kites are VERY Dangerous to Non Kiters Reply with quote

muldoon wrote:
Hey all, here's my advice:

Never, ever touch lines in the water. They are unbelievably hazardous. Even if the kite is down and the wind is dead, a gust will ruin your day. The term 'getting gloved' refers to having a line cinch up around your wrist or finger, cutting through your skin, and peeling it off.


That sounds little different than picking up a strange, loaded firearm or IED in Iraq.... I think you can be sent to jail for leaving a firearm where kids can get it or making a bomb and leaving it sit where someone can touch it and make it go off.

Something THAT dangerous... you wonder how they are legal.

I'm fine with Kites as long as they stay away from me. I felt like literally shooting someone on a kite who decided he wanted to race or sail back and forth with me at Coyote last year. It wasn't Scott Nix as I know him and trust his ability but someone I spent half my session trying to avoid.

They should have their own places to play WELL AWAY from windsurfing lanes such as they have at Kanaha where they are not even allowed close to most windsurfing areas so we don't have to avoid them and they don't have to worry about us. The hell with sharing as they are far too dangerous when down to even get near windsurfers as far as I am concerned.

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tstizzle



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i bet koogzah would pick up a loaded firearm or an IED...
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MalibuGuru



Joined: 11 Nov 1993
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most guys down south just carry hook knives to cut the lines out of our way. We then wail on the offending kiter like UFC cage fights.

I have however designed a mushroom cap (pat pending) that fits on the top of your mast. It has 12 micro razor blades with small grooves that only allow something the thickness of a kiteline to enter. When the line hits your sail and slides up.....ZING, you're free.

I can't wait to drop in on a kiter this summer.
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koogzah



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tstizzle wrote:
i bet koogzah would pick up a loaded firearm or an IED...


Ya d@mn right I would. I'd pick up both at once and juggle them.
But not a kite line. That's just insane.
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tpierce



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: kiteboarder driven over the rocks at Hs Lordships Reply with quote

Thanks, faradroka1 for your report. I'm the kiteboarder and wish I could have seen my helitackgonzo 360. And thanks for getting me unhooked. tswei is correct: the tree catching and depowering the kite may well have saved my life.

For the record, I wasn't trying to land at the Lordships launch; I consider it windsurfing only (and wish the Pt Emery windsurfers would launch there - the parking at Pt Emery is precious and it's the only safe kite spot).

I was having a great session, made it past the Lordships rocks in 3 reaches, but I cut it too close. The wind got all fluky (normal) and I was too close to the riprap, no leeway to sail out of there. I was screwed, so I tried to go up the rocks. I slipped, and that's where the sonuvabitch episode started. Any chance you got that on video?

Thanks for braving the catapult potential while helping me get unhooked. And you're right, the blood flowed pretty freely for almost a minute; I really do appreciate your concern. MY main concern at the moment was finding a place to sit out of the wind. Thanks for your 911 call, and I apologize for seeming belligerent as someone else said. I had a lot of bruises that a helper can't see, so on my own was the easiest way up the path.

I did get pretty banged up, lots of very colorful bruises, but not as badly as the BFD's gauze turban seemed to suggest. They took me to my car at Pt Emery, where I changed clothes and drove myself to Summit emergency. I ended up at Highland anyway, the trauma treatment was excellent and prompt and thorough and the doctor who put 3 staples in my leg and 9 stitches in my head was possibly the hottest girl I've ever seen. Then came the dread "we're keeping you overnight" which amounted to getting awakened every 15 minutes for innumerable stupid reasons. Then the morning nurse wouldn't even get me some peroxide so I could nurse my own cuts & scrapes, so after 5 hours of waiting I walked out, went to my regular doc for some Vicodin and I'm going to be ok in a few days.

oh, one last: lol windoggie! maybe you're right about why the kiters wear boardshorts over wetsuits!
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gregorvass



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I KITE, AKA DINGGLING IS IS JUST SOOOO BLEEDING BORING!!!!!!!!!!! WHEN I STARTED KITING,WE USED TO LUNCH KITES STRAIGHT DOWN WIND GET LIFTED AND HAVE BLEEDING HEADS PRETTY MUCH EVRY TIME. SOME GUY GOT SMASHED BFD! JUST ASK TRAIG AND HIS "DEATH PILLOW" KITES. BESIDES BACK THEN THERE WERE FOUR GUYS KITING NOW THERE ARE 400. kITING IS "GAY". I RATHER "POLE BOARD".
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kevinkan



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey tpierce,

thanks for posting here and letting us know you're ok. nobody wants to see anybody get hurt, and i'm glad somebody was around to help you out when you needed it.

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MULLDE102f



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And tpierce, thanks for maintaining a sense of humor regarding the sometimes unkind remarks directed at kiters. Good job of keeping the two groups talking politely.
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mac



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Location: Berkeley, California

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tpierce--thanks for reporting in, glad you're ok. For you and for the others, SFBA has scheduled its safety day for Saturday, June 12th, from 11 - 2 at the Saint Francis Yacht Club. I think it would be helpful for you to come and lead a discussion about your accident, and what you've learned and what would have helped in terms of assistance from other sailors or safer launch sites.

Safety is an integral element of protecting and enhancing access. Use of sailing sites can be restricted if local governments have legitimate safety concerns, and kites coming down on other people can be a big deal. Educating politicians, showing that we are educating our own members, and looking for safe sites all go together in preserving access, so I hope to see many of you there.

Jim McGrath
San Francisco Boardsailing Association (yes, this includes kites!)
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