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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a 1/2 dozen people that went down as a result of borrowing against non-existent equity on their residences; including an employee of mine.

I was his boss and could not afford HIS house! and the banks just gave him the bucks! This was unbridled greed - all around!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to find the quote by the banker who bragged that they pursued high risk loans because that was the way to make more money. Didn’t find that, but did find a few interesting sources. Enjoy. Remember that the architect of this was Texas Congressman Phil Gramm. Also the author of the energy deregulation that enabled the Enron crisis. See the Seattle PI source for the role of the Bush Administration and Republicans in protecting Wall Street from liability. These are the folks who are lurking behind the mama grizzlies.

Now I know Mother Jones is a biased source, but here’s what they have to say about Gramm:
In the 1990s, as chairman of the Senate banking committee, he routinely turned down Securities and Exchange Commission chairman Arthur Levitt's requests for more money to police Wall Street; during this period, the sec's workload shot up 80 percent, but its staff grew only 20 percent. Gramm also opposed an sec rule that would have prohibited accounting firms from getting too close to the companies they audited—at one point, according to Levitt's memoir, he warned the sec chairman that if the commission adopted the rule, its funding would be cut. And in 1999, Gramm pushed through a historic banking deregulation bill that decimated Depression-era firewalls between commercial banks, investment banks, insurance companies, and securities firms—setting off a wave of merger mania.

What Caused the Financial Crisis?
Quotes by Bankers and Other Experts
Excerpts from many of these quotes are featured in our video, “What Caused the Financial
Crisis? True Confessions from Bankers.”
Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board
“That conclusion suggests that the best response to the housing bubble would have been
regulatory, not monetary. Stronger regulation and supervision aimed at problems with
underwriting practices and lenders' risk management would have been a more effective
and surgical approach to constraining the housing bubble than a general increase in
interest rates.”
“Monetary Policy and the Housing Bubble,” a speech given at the annual meeting of the American
Economic Association in Atlanta, Georgia -- January 3, 2010
“Although the high rate of delinquency has a number of causes, it seems clear that unfair
or deceptive acts and practices by lenders resulted in the extension of many loans,
particularly high-cost loans, that were inappropriate for or misled the borrower.”
- Written statement by Chairman Bernanke, July 14, 2008
Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO, JPMorgan Chase & Co.
“The mortgage market meltdown occurred for a number of reasons, but new and poorly
underwritten mortgage products were a significant contributor… “
- Testimony to Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC)
Washington, D.C. – January 13, 2010
David Einhorn, CEO of Greenhorn Capital
"What strikes me the most about the recent credit market crisis is how fast the world is
trying to go back to business as usual. In my view, the crisis wasn't an accident. We
didn't get unlucky. The crisis came because there have been a lot of bad practices and a
lot of bad ideas.”
- Speech given at 17th Annual Graham & Dodd Investing breakfast (October 19, 2007).
Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve board
“The big demand was not so much on the part of the borrowers as it was on the part of
the suppliers who were giving loans which really most people couldn't afford.”
- Jon Meacham and Daniel Gross, “The Oracle Reveals All,” Newsweek online, interview with
Speaker Jon Husted, Ohio House of Representatives (R)
“We as a nation have $9.5 trillion in debt. This is $31,500 per consumer. We have a
consumer debt that is $8,300 per capita. That is crippling our economy as a result. We
have witnessed irresponsible lending as a major factor in slowing our economy. It's not
just consumers, but its very large banks and firms on Wall Street.”
Brian T. Moynihan, CEO and President, Bank of America
“Over the course of this crisis, we as an industry caused a lot of damage. Never has it
been clearer how mistakes made by financial companies can affect Main Street, and we
need to learn the lessons of the past few years.”
- Testimony to Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC)
Washington, D.C. -- January 13, 2010
Scott Stern, CEO of Lenders One
The truth is that many of us in the industry were deeply distressed by the growing
practice of pushing high risk loans on borrowers who had no reasonable expectation of
being able to repay the mortgage. Disclosures were often less than adequate, and faced
with a bewildering array of loan terms, borrowers tended to trust their mortgage banker or
broker. The broken trust that resulted has damaged borrower confidence in the mortgage
industry. I liken the situation to that of a doctor and patient dealing with a medical
procedure. The patient bears some reasonable risk. But they don’t bear the risk of
malpractice by the doctor. In our industry, we have frankly seen too much mortgage
- Testimony before the Senate Banking Committee
Washington, D.C.
April 10, 2008
John Robbins, long-time industry executive and former chairman of
the Mortgage Bankers Association
During the lending boom, the industry developed products that were "extremely risky that
were pushed by everybody up and down the food chain," Mr. Robbins said. "We forgot
about our customers, and making money and our commission checks were more
important," he said.
Kate Berry, “Wachovia Alum Has Tips for an Industry Rebound,” American Banker (September 15,
Mark Zandi, Chief Economist, Moody’s Analytics
"Even after mortgage loans started going bad en masse, the confusing mix of federal and
state agencies that made up the nation's regulatory structure had difficulty responding.
After regulators finally began to speak up about subprime and the other types of
mortgage loans that had spun out of control, such lending was already on its way to
extinction. What regulators had to say was all but irrelevant.
Yet even the combination of a flawed financial system, cash-flush global investors and
lax regulators could not, by itself, have created the subprime financial shock. The
essential final ingredient was hubris: a belief that the ordinary rules of economics and
finance no longer applied."
Introduction to Zandi’s book, Financial Shock.
What Did NOT Cause the Crisis?
Christopher Cox (SEC Chairman), Alan Greenspan, John Snow
(former Treasury secretary)
When questioned in a House Oversight Committee meeting on October 23, 2008, all three
agreed that All agreed that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not the primary cause of the
subprime meltdown.
John Dugan, Comptroller of the Currency
“CRA [the Community Reinvestment Act, a longstanding program for encouraging more lending
in minority neighborhoods] is not the culprit behind the subprime mortgage lending abuses, or the
broader credit quality issues in the marketplace.”
Press release issued on November 19, 2008, quoting Mr. Dugan in a speech to the Enterprise Annual
Network Conference
Randall Krozner, formerly on the Federal Reserve Board, now a
Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago
"The very small share of all higher-priced (home) loans originated that can reasonably be
attributed to CRA makes it hard to imagine how this law could have contributed in any meaningful
way to the current subprime crisis."
Speaking at a conference, as quoted in a Reuters article

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