Thank you Wisconsin

[MalibuGuru]

Where can I get one of those T-shirts, and a chick like that???

[windoggi]

Walmart

[mat-ty]

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, June 7, 2012
Categories: Cable News Daily Ratings

Written By Amanda Kondolojy
June 8th, 2012




 

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Thursday, June 7, 2012

P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
Total Day
FNC    1,174        240         492
CNN      292         85         119
MSNBC      359        101         149
CNBC      151         48           91
FBN        56         11           26
HLN      202         81         132
Primetime P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC    2,212        396         848
CNN      397        105         157
MSNBC      705        181         297
CNBC      196        121         117
FBN        74         16           35
HLN      352        122         206
Net Morning programs (6-9 AM) P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FOX & Friends      994        253         507
CNN Early Start/Starting Point      190         91           97
MSNBC Morning Joe      325        123         160
CNBC Squawk Box      164         42         101
HLN Morning Express w/ Meade      253        125         197
Net 5PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC FIVE, THE    1,589        306         647
CNN Situation Room      384         62         113
MSNBC Hardball WITH C. MATTHEWS      516        102         194
CNBC FAST MONEY      137         16           88
HLN EVENING EXPRESS      163         73         109
Net 6PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC SPECIAL RPT W/BRET BAIER    1,774        362         711
CNN John King USA      320         52           98
MSNBC POLITICS NATION      599        103         199
CNBC Mad Money      183         48         123
HLN EVENING EXPRESS      128         66           87
Net 7PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC The Fox Report W/S.SMITH    1,628        319         660
CNN ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT      371         80         122
MSNBC Hardball WITH C. MATTHEWS      689        126         257
CNBC Kudlow Report      148         38           69
HLN JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL      268         98         123
Net 8PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR    2,626        465         964
CNN Anderson Cooper 360      393         89         164
MSNBC Ed Show      690        155         272
CNBC COCAINE COWBOYS      171         96           93
HLN Nancy Grace      341         84         163
Net 9PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC Hannity    2,116        365         814
CNN Piers Morgan Tonight      438        108         156
MSNBC Rachel Maddow Show      755        196         333
CNBC COCAINE COWBOYS      238        160         146
HLN Dr. Drew      373        131         221
Net 10PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC ON THE RECORD W/GRETA    1,872        358         766
CNN Anderson Cooper 360      359        119         151
MSNBC Last Word W/ L. ODONNELL      669        193         285
CNBC AMERICAN GREED      180        106         113
HLN Nancy Grace      341        151         233
Net 11PM P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FNC THE OREILLY FACTOR    1,250        332         621
CNN ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT      231         94         120
MSNBC Ed Show      394        146         163
CNBC Mad Money        80         47           65
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT      213         89         141

[mat-ty]

I Wonder if marble mouth Debbie still feels the same way???

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/05/27/debbie_wasserman_schultz_wisconsin_a_dry_run_for_obama.html

[mrgybe]

For those who screamed at Scott Walker for his steps to restore fiscal sanity in Wisconsin, here are some alternatives:

1. Stockton
2. Mammoth Lakes
3. San Bernadino
4. Scranton
5. Antioch
6. ??????

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/finance/2012/July/Third-California-City-Seeks-Bankruptcy-Protection/

[mac]

Well, the Koch's are back, with disinformation. So just a few facts to show the spinner is up to his old tricks of half truths. Let's look at Stockton--victim of its own hubris, the housing bubble perpetrated by Republican policies, increasing health costs which enrich Republicans--and to a small degree, public pensions.

It is always dangerous to believe your own press clippings, and even worse to sell bonds based on them. In Stockton, now foreclosure capital of the United States, the median house price went from $110,000 in 2000 to $400,000 in 2009, and back to $110,000 in 2009. That bubble was the sub-prime hay days--and the solid American banks figured they could pocket the loan fees and pass the bad loans off to someone. Stockton's general fund fattened up on the sub-prime steroids--from $139 million to $186 million, 2001 to 2007--then dropped back to $155 million. Stockton made a bad decision to accord permanent health care benefits to a large class of retirees, but I don't think that is the main cause.

Now let's compare Jerry Brown to Scott Walker. Jerry proposes all of the essential changes to public pensions that are needed--raise the retirement age to 67 (you can now retire pretty nicely at 60 from State service) etc--earning endorsements from the State's Republicans--without going to war--or pandering to the Koch's. See http://www.governing.com/columns/public-money/col-Jerry-Browns-Plan-for-Comprehensive-Pension-Reform.html

Now I imagine with a bit of work I could debunk the rest of mrgybe's horseshit, and update the aphorism liars, damned liars, and retired oilies.

[mac]

Just a little more truth to oil speaking. Here is a bit of analysis (imagine that!) from the LA times about San Bernardino (don't forget that "r"), and Mammoth Lakes' problems. In the former, apparently the City staff had misrepresented the budget to the Council, in the latter it was a lawsuit by the developer. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0711-san-bernardino-20120711,0,5646419.story

So the obvious solution, to the Kochs and their toadies in Wisconsin, Ohio, and Virginia, is to villify public employees, especially teachers, and support candidates that will cut taxes for the rich. When faced with a revenue problem, blame the uninvolved and cut taxes.

Oh, and by the way, this morning's newspapers report the lowest tax rates in thirty years. Republican policy, implemented by Obama. It hasn't worked without some level of stimulus spending, has it? And we should all ignore the root cause--Republican deregulation of the housing market that sent the economy into the ditch in the first place.

What a tool for the ultra-rich!

[mrgybe]

Who knew? It was accounting errors that caused the SB insolvency, not spending and promising more than could be afforded. Blame the Koch brothers, the banks, the Republicans, Fox News, the oil companies.........just don't blame the incompetence and absence of fiscal restraint of the officials who have been running these places for decades. A familiar formula.

[boggsman1]

Mr G. rather than blame politicians, give me one example of somebody you know who was at a big party full of hookers, 8-Balls, and Dom Perignon ....who, right at the peak of all the fun, turned off the music and told everyone to go home?
Point is , we know that whoever is in charge always spends money based on growth that won't materialize. With our current system of PAYING off campaign contributors , aint nuttin gonna change.

[mac]

mrgybe of the right wing sound byte without depth. There is no question that in many cities, many in California, benefits, particularly for firemen and police, are too generous. Retirement benefits in local government are 50% higher than in state government. Local government, of course, the level of government of most immediate response to an informed electorate. And of course, the State executive, whether in California or Wisconsin, has little direct responsibility.

The issue from day one is villifying those that didn't create the problem for political gain but relatively little traction. In that respect, Governor Walker is particularly distasteful, dishonest, and incompetent. In contrast, California has ended the redevelopment game, where local governments were in over their head. There is a real pension reform proposal on the table, made by someone that actually understands government and what is contracted for. And just yesterday, the Governor announced furloughs for the unions that wouldn't come to the table and bargain for wage concessions.

In contrast, Walker misrepresented the facts, gave the rich a tax break, and got involved in a huge conflict, where he was bailed out by the rich from other states who want to increase partisanship not progress. Kind of like 33 votes by House Republicans on repealing health care and almost no bills that represent the role of the Federal government. But he is such an right wing asshole that it is obvious why you like and shill for him.