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real-human



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
Hillary is a corrupt POS. She has protected her husband from rape charges, bimbo eruptions, rezco, and accepted money from the most despicable people and places..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc3qtfUkOKs

Great video on her and her challenger


again more money was spent investigating the clintons by ultra partisan hate monger right wingers than any other person in the history of the world. and that just ain't good enough for ya. Remember your first special prosecutor who was a right winger came out and said there was nothing. Your second right wing hate monger also could not get one grand jury to indict them after all the money spent. Yet you believe there is still something there...

You give me half of that with special prosecutor rights and I can take down any right wing can any right winger running for president. and even supreme court justice thomas.

As far as accepting money to support humanitarian causes well if some right winger wants to legally donate money to the tune of a hundred billion to give to educate women and provide them with shelter around the world I would take it for my foundation too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the media this should be front pages. If a dem running for office of the president ever made such a major stupid mistake would be crucified in the front pages.

After all again Howard Dean just cheered and they used an isolation mic to make it sound like he was cheering by himself. That was played thousands of times by all kinds of media.

Bush meets with a Polish former leader who resigned the day before Bush met with him. The guy was removed from office because he said he hated the USA and the usa is to the effect slime. Bush meets with him the day after he resigns and tell us he is a person who respects the USA... even in light of being told what that guy said he would not back down.

the Polish leader was taped in a thing called waitergate..

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/awkward-stumble-for-jeb-bush-in-poland-463470659540

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

where is the media pointing out in headlines that more than 200 corporate CEOs attend the right wing elite gathering with the presidential hopefuls of the right wing. again these are a second tier of the massive money that goes into politics, the CEOs. First tier is the partisan owners of the media and huge hand me down money the trust fund kids like the Koch brothers, Hunt brothers, Richard Melon Scaife walmart kids, tribune kids, stephens media, and on and on. Now we have the top 200 CEOs who are absolutely partisans showing their right wing colors. Where is the media hammering this?

Mitt Romney gives a brutal PowerPoint critique of Obama’s foreign policy

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PARK CITY, Utah — Ever since Mitt Romney’s loss to President Obama in 2012, it has become a mantra in the Republican Party that on foreign policy especially, “Romney was right.”In a stuffy mountain lodge here Friday night, Romney joined the chorus. Dusting off a page from his management consulting playbook, the former Republican nominee delivered a speech by PowerPoint to more than 200 corporate CEOs and other attendees of his annual ideas festival about what he deemed (and titled his slides): “The Most Consequential Obama Foreign Policy Mistakes.” Read full article »

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here are the numbers for lobbying per year. this is per year,

Note you do not see one democrat company/organization that is a liberal partisan one here. Yes google is on the list but googles lobbyists are working for googles interest in business advantages,

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/index.php

Over 3 billion is spent a year on Lobbying. and to be elected president is about a billion every 4 years. Notice how they do not claim lobbying is a political expenditure. Again every single one of the companies is right wing and not one liberal major player.

again this should be brought out by the right wing media that this funding is 12 times what it takes to be president and it is basically 99% right wing. where is that liberal counterbalance on spending? And most of this lobbying is specifically for lower tax purposes or government handouts.

again 12 times the amount to run for the presidents seat. and not even really brought up in the media, yet you hear the right wing Soros this and sorros that and he barely puts in money for dems vs what right wingers do. Yet you hear his name all the time like their is some kind of parity. It is just another right wing false equivalency.

If I owned the media as a liberal people would certainly see these issues front page.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at the site, and when you look up "Top Lobbyist Contributors", you find that the vast majority of the lobbyist contributions go to Democrats in 2014, 2012 & 2010 with a more balanced distribution in 2008.

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Again every single one of the companies is right wing and not one liberal major player.


It's refreshing to see that there are so many liberal companies/lobbyists that are giving most of their money to the conservatives.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
I looked at the site, and when you look up "Top Lobbyist Contributors", you find that the vast majority of the lobbyist contributions go to Democrats in 2014, 2012 & 2010 with a more balanced distribution in 2008.

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Again every single one of the companies is right wing and not one liberal major player.


It's refreshing to see that there are so many liberal companies/lobbyists that are giving most of their money to the conservatives.


too funny your intellectual ability to analyze data. There appear to be about 100 listed and more right wingers received money. and the bigger point is this is about 10-15 million total given to the politicians via right wing supreme idiots that corporations are people too and unlimited money can be given. Again it was the right wing that supported this all the way to the supreme idiots of the right in a 5 to 4 decision where no liberal on the supreme court supported citizens united.

But the big issue is by your way of ignorant thinking that for hypothetical, the oil, defense, chemical, walmarts, and so on companies listed gave 3 billion a year to lobbyists that are not trying to oppose everything dems propose. Yes they already have the right wingers in their pocket, that was citizens united so they then give a pittance of this money to dems say 7 million total.

again these right wing defense contractors et al. group are spending 3 billion a year. Of which ok, 7 million to dems and 3,233 million against all things dems are working on,,, ie this money to the benefit of the right wing agenda. Again per year.

again this dwarfs even the Koch brothers 501s that they run and claim they will spend 1,000 million every 4 year cycle. IE 250 million a year average.

again why isn't the right wing owned media pointing out this horrible disparity of money going into politics to right wing causes... ya that so called liberal media....

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The biggest spenders are the Chamber, and NAR, both of which 80% of their contributions go to Repubs.... That's why you will NEVER see 2nd home deductibilty go away, or many other ridiculous tax benefits.....
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

techno900 wrote:
I looked at the site, and when you look up "Top Lobbyist Contributors", you find that the vast majority of the lobbyist contributions go to Democrats in 2014, 2012 & 2010 with a more balanced distribution in 2008.

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Again every single one of the companies is right wing and not one liberal major player.


It's refreshing to see that there are so many liberal companies/lobbyists that are giving most of their money to the conservatives.


BTW your so called thesis here is apparently because they give equal amounts of pitiful small donations to dems there is equality in the 3.3 billion a year they spend.

Ok as I pointed out that is just the most stupid intellectual analysis one can come up with. Are you really that stupid? Or do you just argue stupidly and blindly because you hate america? Seriously how can anyone take you serious about anything when you are willing to make such a asinine thesis.

Here.. Lets look at australian trust fund kid ruppy Murdoch the worlds largest owner of the media. Largest owner in the USA too. Ruppy in essence is giving the RNC free 24/7/365 ultra rabid partisan support of the republican party. What a commercial on their networks for 30 seconds costs how much? So there is a value to the right wing for that constant ultra partisan hate. Did you know that ruppy in one election cycle gave a lot of money to Hillary? I think more than any other candidate.

So according to your thesis because he gave to Hillary as a campaign contribution he is a dem and supports dem issues.. hahahahahaha nothing can be further than the truth. we can conclude the same to other right wingers who give pittances to liberals and huge to their right wing lobbying, like defense contractors. chemical, oil, medical, pharma, pizza joints, home depots, walmarts, investment, banks, insurance, trust fund kids and on and on.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hat as a madder.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeeez. All I did was look at Baja's supporting web site and found information contrary to what he is claiming. It must sting to be found so wrong, as exhibited by his ranting.

"Push this button" = go stark raving mad.............. It's so fun at times.
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