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philodog



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Downhaul knot Reply with quote

noshuzbluz brought up this downhaul knot in another thread and it`s such an awesome knot I wanted to give it it`s own topic so it`s easily searchable and not lost in the other thread.

noshuzbluz wrote:
This little trick for downhauling David Ezzy shows at the beginning of this video is waaaaay too easy. You can throw away all the clam cleat gizmoz you bought over the years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUl9F8ntz9c#at=34


Here`s a video of the way it was taught in an ABK camp 20 years ago. Same knot tied a different way.

http://youtu.be/8oBaGpSbTfk
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noshuzbluz



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes very simple and awesome knot indeed! And obviously don't need to use your uni for it. I've used everything handy from a screwdriver to a stick for a handle and it takes about 1 second to do. yvanboniec would love this!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An even easier method, IMO: I just use a downhaul cleat. I use long downhaul lines for easy, tension-free threading, and moving the cleat on the line as more line emerges from the pulley is much simpler than moving a knot. My cups also have volcano pads on them after I lost a season to a broken toe from a bare uni, so I'd have to remove and reinstall the pad each time if I were using the cup as a handle. The cleat is always right where I rig, so there's nothing to remember or fetch.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to disagree with you Mike, I know, I know, people usually don't disagree with you but the beauty of the knot is it's one less piece of gear you have to search for and account for.
I use the uni cup and usually don't have to pull it twice.
I've even shown the trick to a couple of old timers to their amazement.
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KevinDo



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ABK instructor showed me that awhile back. Used to think it was awesome till I tried the rigging winch. I always attach it to the mast extension when taking it out of the car so no problems for me!

-Kevin

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like using a cleat, and I keep a crank in the van as well (in case I'm rigging a big sail and want the tuning finesse that a crank provides.) But this knot trick is GENIUS for adjusting downhaul on the beach. Love it! And just stuck both videos on my blog.

http://www.peconicpuffin.com/the_peconic_puffin/2013/08/downhaul-knot-trick.html

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Darbonne



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like my cleat, but it is good to know this in case I lose it.
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isobars



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beaglebuddy wrote:
I'll have to disagree with you Mike, I know, I know, people usually don't disagree with you ...

That's what's so great about opinions: they're just OPINIONS, not rules.
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outhaul



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I feel like a sucker for shelling out $50 for a downhaul winch but it does work well in that one can easily see and watch the effects of downhaul on the sail. I think the winch is especially great for those new to the sport. The knot trick is a great thing to have in the back pocket however.
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PeconicPuffin



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

outhaul wrote:
Sometimes I feel like a sucker for shelling out $50 for a downhaul winch but it does work well in that one can easily see and watch the effects of downhaul on the sail. I think the winch is especially great for those new to the sport. The knot trick is a great thing to have in the back pocket however.


I do not feel like a sucker for owning a winch (and a cleat) and I like the knot trick too. For fine tuning a sail nothing matches a winch. Once you have owned a sail for awhile and have the tuning figured out, you can then use a cleat (or the knot) to get you where you need to be. For a big race sail I would still use the winch.

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