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pueno
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| swchandler wrote: | | The theme that our black president is to totally to blame for the social dilemma that exists in this country is total BS. Our nation is at risk, but for reasons you folks can't even begin to understand. |
And that reason may be that they, and millions like them, ARE the reason.
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isobars
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| mrgybe wrote: | | perhaps the race baiters and rabble rousers here and elsewhere will realize that their inflammatory language has consequences. |
I don't see how Sharpton is guilty of anything less than Inciting to Riot, now enhanced by two murders. Even DiBlasio and Obama, by the implicit and/or overt blame they place on police strategy, tactics, and behavior with virtually no blame on the behavior of the two unarguably culpable perps, have blood on their hands. |
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pointster
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So we are expected to believe that the unrest of black people in NY is not caused by seeing with their own eyes a video of an unarmed black man being subdued by the police with a prohibited chokehold, a black man who says he can't breathe, a black man who dies right there, but is caused instead by the reaction of the mayor and the president? Do you think there was anything the mayor or president could do to make them forget what they saw? Really?
Look around, there ain't that many turnip trucks. |
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mac
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| So sick. |
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mrgybe
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| pointster wrote: | | So we are expected to believe that the unrest of black people in NY is not caused by seeing with their own eyes a video of an unarmed black man being subdued by the police with a prohibited chokehold, a black man who says he can't breathe, a black man who dies right there, but is caused instead by the reaction of the mayor and the president? |
Can you really not see the connection between the cold blooded murder of two NYC policemen and the rabble rousing from race baiters like Sharpton......or the repeated comments from so many, including the usual suspects here, that the police force deliberately and unfairly targets young black men and their prejudice caused two black law breakers to lose their lives........or the tacit support of that view from so-called leaders like De Blasio and Holder? There is no doubt in my mind that this type of language played a significant role in motivating a black man from Baltimore to travel 200 miles to NYC for the purpose of gunning down these two officers. Expressions of shock, or dismissive comments from the very people who were stoking the flames, will not absolve them of culpability. |
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pointster
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: |
Can you really not see the connection between the cold blooded murder of two NYC policemen and the rabble rousing from race baiters like Sharpton......or the repeated comments from so many, including the usual suspects here, that the police force deliberately and unfairly targets young black men and their prejudice caused two black law breakers to lose their lives........or the tacit support of that view from so-called leaders like De Blasio and Holder? There is no doubt in my mind that this type of language played a significant role in motivating a black man from Baltimore to travel 200 miles to NYC for the purpose of gunning down these two officers. Expressions of shock, or dismissive comments from the very people who were stoking the flames, will not absolve them of culpability. |
I have found the remarks of Holder and DeBlasio to be moderate. Could you perhaps share with us some quotes you find inflammatory? |
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mrgybe
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't say DeBlasio or Holder made inflammatory remarks did I? Perhaps you could read my post. |
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swchandler
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Some folks simply fabricate the scene that they want to see. In light of the more recent killings of unarmed blacks by the police across the country, it hard for the media to not want to focus on getting comments from President Obama and US Attorney General Holder, especially given their black roots.
Nothing I've heard from the president, or the AG is alarming or unexpected, yet many on the right can have bizarre interpretations of what is being said. It's totally off-the-top to think that the public comments being made by Obama and Holder are driving the recent police killings by a troubled black man, but that's what some here are saying.
"inciting hatred", "Should be held responsible", and "not absolve them of culpability". |
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pointster
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| Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mrgybe wrote: | | I didn't say DeBlasio or Holder made inflammatory remarks did I? Perhaps you could read my post. |
Sorry, your use of ellipses made your post a little difficult to parse. But, I take your point, you did not accuse them of rabble rousing. However, please show me how they give "tacit support" to the views you find objectionable. It seems to me that you want to judge them based upon what other people say, not on their own statements. |
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