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KGB-NP
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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swchandler wrote: | Religious nuts with an off-the-top ridiculous agenda. They are nowhere close to being credible, or representative of average African-Americans or Hispanics. They're just a freak show that depicts just how twisted religious folks can be. This stuff is the kind of crap you get with 24/7 cable news. |
Probably doesn't work with your prejudice, but they're also not representative of the average religious folk either. That's probably one of the most twisted things I've viewed in a long time and I really have to question what the point of any of THAT was. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Contrary to your prejudiced view of what I believe, I do not view most normal folks that adhere to more mainline religious beliefs and practices to be religious nuts. Just like we have Islamic religious nuts running around, there are crazy Christian nuts too. The video clearly depicts a group of the latter type. I have to admit though, I blame 24/7 cable news and other biased media sources for capturing and broadcasting such nonsense. It's a freak show that doesn't warrant a platform in the media. It's bad enough that the folks present on the scene had to witness what happened.
Lastly, I think that I've been quite clear in the past about the importance in the separation of church and state here in America. It's a core element of our US Constitution that protects all Americans. As long as I have freedom from religion, I'm not at all against those that want to believe and practice their religious views at home and in the church of their choice. |
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MalibuGuru
Joined: 11 Nov 1993 Posts: 9300
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Nail_Ponder wrote: | swchandler wrote: | Religious nuts with an off-the-top ridiculous agenda. They are nowhere close to being credible, or representative of average African-Americans or Hispanics. They're just a freak show that depicts just how twisted religious folks can be. This stuff is the kind of crap you get with 24/7 cable news. |
Probably doesn't work with your prejudice, but they're also not representative of the average religious folk either. That's probably one of the most twisted things I've viewed in a long time and I really have to question what the point of any of THAT was. |
You might think those wonderful black Christians were nuts as you put it, but they were extremely conservative in their philosophy, and blacks on the whole do not support gay marriage or many other liberal philosophies that you do SWC. |
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isobars
Joined: 12 Dec 1999 Posts: 20935
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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MalibuGuru wrote: | blacks on the whole do not support gay marriage or many other liberal philosophies that you do SWC. |
Not even shooting your neighbor's barking dog, as SWC advocated in the LAT op ed section? |
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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ya those religious nuts as put were oulandish. Would even bet they were paid by Rove indirectly. All you have to do is listen to the Nixon tapes where he had his cronies funnel money into extremist green types to harm the dem main people. Ya it is his own friggen words. And Rove et all have been implicated in some pretty low things. Not unlike during the occupy wall street protests where police were actually picking up drunk troublemakers and dropping them off into the protests. Police plants. And not even unlike the companies that would hire union busters to infiltrate the union protests and cause and trouble instigate escalation of the evens. Yep from the right wing hero who should have gone to jail tricky dick, his own brand of tricky dick dirty tricks, gee he only used the CIA, FBI, IRS for his bag of tricks and breaking and entering to steal democrats play book.
Now we know to date not one such instance has ever been found and or jailed by the dems. Not a one. Also note republicans in the Bush election were were convicted of jamming dem phones so they could not do their jobs on an election day. Again they were convicted. again it it the nature of the right wing. again Nixon is a hero to the right wing.
Lets say these religious finatics were real though. All 5 of them. Now here is a better example of the thousands of a real hateright wing terrorist organization that is part of the confederate flag loving republican party.
http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-pro-confederate-neo-nazis-admit-hate-for-obama-is-fueling-their-popularity/
Watch: Pro-Confederate Neo-Nazis Admit Hate For Obama Is Fueling Their Popularity
Quote: | In this video, Channel 4 News interviews two members of the most prominent American Neo-Nazi group, the National Socialist Movement. They had some very disturbing things to say about President Obama and what they think about our nation. The camera opens on the two men giving the “Sieg Heil” salute beloved of the German Nazi party, in front of a truck adorned with the Confederate flag.
“So you think white people are under siege?” asks the reporter. “Absolutely. We’re facing extinction” replies one extremist.
The reporter then moves to the recent push to get the Confederate flag removed from state buildings: “Do you think the events in Charleston have had an impact on your membership and the people interested in your organization?”
Alarmingly, the radical says”Undoubtedly. The number of phone calls and emails and one on one encounters that we’re getting…whites are getting fed up. Whites are getting tired of being disenfranchised and neglected by their own government.”
And the final kicker: “Does it make you angry that a black man is your president?” “Absolutely” he replies. “We’re a white nation, founded by and for the white man.”
For all the protests of the right-wing that the Confederate flag is about their “heritage” and not about racism, this is definitive proof that that narrative is entirely false. The radicalization of white extremism in America has taken a dangerous turn during President Obama’s tenure, and this kind of unabashed racism and hatred is what eight years of constant xenophobic hatred spewed from FOX and other conservative echo chambers produces.
Watch it here:
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again these are verified large right wing organizations as noted by the ADL. _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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swchandler
Joined: 08 Nov 1993 Posts: 10588
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Bard, you warming up to "conservative" black and latino nut cases spouting religious BS and nonsense in the name of your religion?
Regarding gay marriage, I have no interest in discriminating against them. Maybe that's the difference between you and me.
Lastly, what other liberal philosophies are you tagging on me that blacks as a whole don't support? |
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mac
Joined: 07 Mar 1999 Posts: 17748 Location: Berkeley, California
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:52 am Post subject: |
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When I was young, my baseball heroes were Hank Aaron and Sandy Koufax. I did not know at the time about the bigoted comments that were made about their accomplishments.
Tennis has not seen a more powerful champion than Serena Williams. Unfortunately, things have not changed much:
Quote: | Serena WIlliams is known for her muscular build and aggressive playing style on the tennis court, traits that have helped her achieve sports stardom. However, despite winning the French Open for the third time in her illustrious career on Saturday, Williams continues to be on the receiving end of racist and sexist remarks about her body and appearance. Sure, the brunt of the ugly comments comes from online trolls, but interestingly, Jenee Desmond-Harris of Vox Sports, points out, many racist and sexist comments come from those in the media, and are thinly veiled. These negative tweets and online remarks are couched in a history of sexualized scrutiny of the black female body, hearkening to the legacy of “Hottentot Venus,” an African woman who was displayed as a freak show to European audiences in the 19th century. Many media outlets, sportscasters, and even fellow athletes have described Williams as ugly, bulky, and animalistic — reflecting a time in America’s past when “black” was equated to “savage” — instead of concentrating on what really matters: her remarkable competitive edge in a time-honored sport. |
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mac
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nw30
Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 6485 Location: The eye of the universe, Cen. Cal. coast
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real-human
Joined: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 14890 Location: on earth
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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ya moron, stop lying that the media is liberal would be the first thing. Idiot and moron squared, as I have posted on that Big Lie the right racist haters own the media. Who gets a job at any media when it is owned by right wing racists...
When the owner of the media is a right winger why would they hire minorities? thanks for proving my point... Just stop lying that the media is liberal when it is owned and controlled by right wingers... oh talk hate radio is only 95% plus right wing hate.... _________________ when good people stay silent the right wing are the only ones heard. |
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