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Why right wing disinformation must be countered
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isobars



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about countering far left disinformation, especially prepared, known, planned, disproved BS straight from Obama's teleprompter through his lips? I'd welcome healthcare ideas from the GOP, but none have been offered.

Everyone who can even identify a picture of Obama knows the GOP has proposed dozens of very specific health care and health care insurance plans and bills (some cited here and many more available), and that Pelosi, Reid, and Obama have both demonstrated and publicly voiced their refusal to even consider, let alone vote on, them.
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mac



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name two. Also name votes that would have been delivered.
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pueno



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fick-shun wrote:

Everyone who can even identify a picture of Obama knows the GOP has proposed dozens of very specific health care and health care insurance plans and bills...

Right again, Mikey.

Probably the best known is Romneycare in Massachusetts. As Romneycare, it's a huge success. As "Obamacare-lite," it's an enormous failure, a total train wreck, a disaster of galactic proportions. The poor citizens of Massachusetts will never, ever recover.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isobars wrote:


Everyone who can even identify a picture of Obama knows the GOP has proposed dozens of very specific health care and health care insurance plans and bills (some cited here and many more available)...


...like that Heritage plan, or the one that Dole used to endorse, or maybe the one Romney implemented before he was against it?

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stevenbard



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't matter what you say, Obama's polls are in freefall right now. The American people can smell a stinker.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevenbard wrote:
It doesn't matter what you say, Obama's polls are in freefall right now. The American people can smell a stinker.
have you ever been paid to post on this or any forum? your hate of america and for which it stands seems more like paid speech vs free speech.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

it says qbamas poll numbers are 41 and have been rising steadily:It took only seconds to find out the real facts.
This is why the topic here is so important. an educated person reading Bards post might conclude he is not telling the truth and dismiss everything he has to say when in fact he is a smart guy with plenty of good points to make.

Conservatives buried in misinformation are becoming faint voices in the debate.
this leaves liberals a a wide open door to take over as long as they quietly stick to the facts as the conservative movement self destructs.

Boehner has been begging his fellow conservatives to rejoin reality and turn off Talk and Drudge before the conservative brand is tarnished forever.

Bards right. The american people can smell a stinker.

Look at election results in recent years. Obama had no hope of winning with the economy in the crapper. In very conservative Missouri the GOP candidate led polls 70 to 12 until the conservative began telling folks the fake facts like those seen here.
He lost along with Romney and many others by opening his mouth and letting folks smell the real source of their facts.
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techno900



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keycocker said:
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it says qbamas poll numbers are 41 and have been rising steadily


You may want to look again at your posted poll. It shows a steady decline in approval over the last year from 54% down to 41%.

The disapproval rating during the same period shows a increase from 37% to 50%.

Thanks for posting the facts.
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keycocker



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Techno do you agree from your own favorite sources that his ratings are in freefall lately?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

This shows a LOT of polls together. The numbers reached into the 30s last month and have now reached 47 in some polls and average over 42 between them all.

You are welcome.
I am posting the truth, brother, and backing it up by showing source material.
My source is not Talk or a White Supremacy site.

I am wrong at times in my research, but am trying my best from real world sources, not the fake media many others prefer.

I hope you are getting my point here which has nothing to do with Obama.
He is not my guy and i care little about him or Presidents in general.
I am joining Boehner in caring about the conservative movement and our easy acceptance of fake media sources.
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techno900



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What am I missing here? I just pointed out that the poll you posted said just the opposite of what you said it did. I guess you figured that out and had to search for another one to make your point. When you go to the summary graph, it shows a drop in the disapproval rating in last two weeks from 55.9 to about 53.8 Talk about cherry picking. If you want to look at trends, you need a bigger sample (longer time frame).

Look at the full year or since he took office and it is not so flattering.

The truth as you have posted in these polls is that Obama's support has declined significantly since he became President. During that time there were ups and downs, but the last year has been his worst.

You said:
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it says qbamas poll numbers are 41 and have been rising steadily
I guess since you didn't provide a time frame for this "steady rise", for the last two weeks, you would be correct.
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