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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ISIS military leaders are the former Saddam military... Thanks Bush and right wingers for giving them a fake cause.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
$100,000,000 per anti ISIS fighter, not bad, not bad.
We can afford it, just plug the money presses back in, no problemo.

In the mean time we have this~


what a ignorant no thought behind it post. Bush was giving out millions billions that no one knows what happened to the money. Not a clue, where you when that happened, can you post a link to a post that you were outraged back then?

Again what 1-3 trillion spent and Bushes withdraw date was before Obamas and same military before and after and we still have not found those weapons of mass destruction, but we did make more terrorists than ever by being there..

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

baja-human wrote:
isobars wrote:
For those who claim the economy is doing well, the front page WSJ article "Uneven Growth Shows Policy Limits" begins with
"Central bankers have injected roughly $8 trillion into the global economy since the financial crisis. In return, the world has remained in a low-growth rut. The Federal Reserve cited market turmoil and a weak economic picture overseas in deciding Thursday not to back off from one of the most aggressive global monetary policies in decades. Whenever the Fed moves to raise interest rates, one lesson remains: Cheap money alone can’t solve the world’s economic ills."
and goes downhill from there.


ya we just need to go back to right wing ways, look how both Bushs left the economy and reygun and his exponential increase in national debt. Under reagun we had the first bailout of banks and Bush the second. yep get them government regulators off the bankers backs as reagan preached... Private business knows best always as the moron reygun said and did.

Didn't a few 1 or two of the Bush kids make out like bandits from that one? What one was on the board of diectors of Silverado and no banking experience, way back then only costing taxpayers a record billion.


Baja, you are a moron. Central planners are afraid to pop the bubble. Why? $8 trillion dollars must be repaid someday. This will lead to a liquidity crisis like the world has never seen. Additionally , this will eventually lead to stag flation that will make the 70s look easy. MONEY PRINTING IS A TAX ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. The fed, propped up by your hero Obama is taxing the poor, while his donors grt rich on free money
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MalibuGuru wrote:
baja-human wrote:
isobars wrote:
For those who claim the economy is doing well, the front page WSJ article "Uneven Growth Shows Policy Limits" begins with
"Central bankers have injected roughly $8 trillion into the global economy since the financial crisis. In return, the world has remained in a low-growth rut. The Federal Reserve cited market turmoil and a weak economic picture overseas in deciding Thursday not to back off from one of the most aggressive global monetary policies in decades. Whenever the Fed moves to raise interest rates, one lesson remains: Cheap money alone can’t solve the world’s economic ills."
and goes downhill from there.


ya we just need to go back to right wing ways, look how both Bushs left the economy and reygun and his exponential increase in national debt. Under reagun we had the first bailout of banks and Bush the second. yep get them government regulators off the bankers backs as reagan preached... Private business knows best always as the moron reygun said and did.

Didn't a few 1 or two of the Bush kids make out like bandits from that one? What one was on the board of diectors of Silverado and no banking experience, way back then only costing taxpayers a record billion.


Baja, you are a moron. Central planners are afraid to pop the bubble. Why? $8 trillion dollars must be repaid someday. This will lead to a liquidity crisis like the world has never seen. Additionally , this will eventually lead to stag flation that will make the 70s look easy. MONEY PRINTING IS A TAX ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. The fed, propped up by your hero Obama is taxing the poor, while his donors grt rich on free money


Nope you be the real moron and chief. Looks like you should sue the Donald because your economics from his school of stupidity is as stupid as his voodoo economics. Did you ever take a business finance class in a real college, well I did, ya just because a few professors especially the finance one said my work was above his graduate level class students. gee most business majors could not pass first year engineering calculus. That's the problem with the intellectual stuff, most business majors are not there for the number crunching stuff, not needed in the 99% of business.

So idiot how did you do in calculus/stats/linear algebra to be this so called economics trump voodoo expert.

Note as the right wing idiot that started the worst economic voodoo Bush before he left the office had to call in the democrats and in essence tell them if they did not give his banking buddies as much money as they wanted the USA was going to end as we knew it... Wow, and lets see your posts back then that tried to prevent that right wing give it all away approach... You and your kind are morons beyond comparison....

Not to mention his source the wall street journal, owned by the fox news and company... gee what a non conflict of interest. what a rag publication... hey are they hacking into any dead or kidnapped victims cell phones? any three headed kids pictures front page this week?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dean's brain:
[It doesn't matter how bad and terrible things are today, because Bush was worse, that makes everything today A-Okay.
And if you don't agree with me, you are an idiot.]

A very bad case of bunker logic.

But as I've said before, keep it up, you serve your side very well.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NW's brain--using the term generously--it doesn't matter what the underlying causes of a problem are. If Obama didn't fix it he owns it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nw30 wrote:
Dean's brain:
[It doesn't matter how bad and terrible things are today, because Bush was worse, that makes everything today A-Okay.
And if you don't agree with me, you are an idiot.]

A very bad case of bunker logic.

But as I've said before, keep it up, you serve your side very well.


Ya you moron, again lets see how you grasp math economics and school. what was your degree in and was it in a real school or the trumpsters school of suckers.

Again answer my questions, with those problems at you, out the gate for any incoming president that could at anytime destabilize the us and world economy. do you want more right wing ways that Bush's and Reygun handled them? Don't you agree for the past 30 years the republicans "keep government off the companies backs" has about destroyed our nation a few times.

again Bush called the dems in and told them if you do not immediately do this the USA is in essence destroyed. No other president in the history of the USA has had to tell the other party that. And you want more of that?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BHO's heart just ain't in it, so why even try, he should just quit, he's terrible at military stuff.
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Obama's Islamic State War Czar Stepping Down

Josh Rogin Eli Lake
Sept 22, 2015 12:10 PM EDT
By Josh Rogin & Eli Lake

President Barack Obama is about to lose the man he hand-picked to build the war effort against the Islamic State. Retired General John Allen will be stepping down as envoy to the global coalition this fall, and the White House is searching for a replacement to be the face of America’s flailing effort to destroy the jihadist group in Syria and Iraq.

Allen will leave government service in the coming weeks, four administration officials told us. State Department officials said they were not ready to officially announce Allen’s departure, but he has notified his superiors he will give up his job in early November, after serving just over one year. His chief of staff, Karin von Hippel, will also depart, to join a British think tank.

The timing of Allen’s departure could not be worse for the Obama administration. The incoming Marine Corps Commandant, Lieutenant General Robert Neller, testified last month that the war is at a “stalemate.” Last week, the head of the U.S. Central Command, General Lloyd Austin, testified that of the 54 Syrian rebels trained and equipped by the U.S. military, only “4 or 5” were still in the fight. And now the Pentagon is investigating allegations by dozens of intelligence analysts that their reporting on the progress in the war effort was altered before being given to top officials.

U.S. officials familiar with Allen's decision say he has been frustrated with White House micromanagement of the war and its failure to provide adequate resources to the fight. He unsuccessfully tried to convince the administration to allow U.S. tactical air control teams to deploy on the ground to help pick targets for air strikes in Iraq. Allen also tried several times to convince the White House to agree to Turkish demands for a civilian protection zone in Syria, to no avail. Nonetheless, administration officials stress that Allen's decision to leave his post was motivated mainly by the health of his wife, who suffers from an auto-immune disorder.

"John Allen has put his heart and soul into trying to make the president's strategy work,” said Derek Harvey, a former senior U.S. military intelligence official who worked with Allen at U.S. Central Command. “I have sympathy for the hard task he was given because I do not believe the president's team was fully on board and he was never empowered to bring the leadership necessary to achieve the mission."

While Allen was working inside the administration, the White House could rely on him to push back against many others in the U.S. national security establishment who argued that Obama was not fully committed to his strategy to degrade and defeat the Islamic State. Earlier this month, he told ABC News that there had been many successes in the war, and he focused on setbacks for the terror group in Tikrit, Iraq, and Kobane, Syria.

“Where we were a year ago today, I wasn't sure how it was going to unfold," Allen said. "It was not clear to me even that Iraq would survive this. In the intervening months, we've seen remarkable progress in many respects.”

Allen was successful in negotiating the deal whereby Turkey is now allowing the U.S. to use the Incirlik Air Base for air operations in Syria. But the broader campaign against the Islamic State has been stymied. The Turks recently launched an offensive not against the jihadists but against Kurdish separatists, who have been important allies to the U.S. on the ground. As Islamic State forces have expanded and consolidated territory in Syria, they have managed to keep control of Iraq's second-largest city, Mosul, and expand into Ramadi, the heart of the 2007-08 Sunni-led rebellion against al-Qaeda in Iraq, the predecessor organization to the Islamic State.

"Some elements of the right strategy are in place, but several are under-resourced while others are missing," David Petraeus, the former general and Central Intelligence Agency director, testified Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee. "We are not where we should be at this point."

When Allen was named to his post in September 2014, he initially planned on staying for six months. He agreed to stay on for another six at the request of Secretary of State John Kerry earlier this year. In the short term, his responsibilities are expected to be passed on to his deputy, Ambassador Brett McGurk. But the White House eventually wants to find a big-name replacement for Allen, who as a four-star Marine Corps general led the international force in Afghanistan from 2011 to 2013.

Finding someone to take the job won’t be easy. Just before he became Obama’s lead official in the fight against the Islamic State, Allen wrote an op-ed article in which he called the group a “clear and present danger to the U.S.” and said it “must be destroyed” quickly, using capabilities and power only the U.S. can bring to bear. Just over one year later, the president has yet to commit to a real plan to “degrade and destroy” the Islamic State, as he has repeatedly said is his goal. Until that changes, Allen’s replacement will face the same roadblocks that he did, and the war against the Islamic State will continue to flounder.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When was the last time any major foreign nation or leader ordered the U.S. to get out, to clear the field of battle, with any expectation of compliance?

This week, when Putin ordered Obama to get out of Syria so Russia can wage unopposed war on the anti-Assad rebels.

This is what we get by having elected a pussy as Commander in Chief. Here I thought all this "leading from behind" stuff was an insult dreamed up by the GOP. I didn't know, or had forgotten, that that fatefully cowardly slogan came from Obama himself, and not as a joke.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atta boy Iso, why don't you re-up and head to the front lines.
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